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Post by johnreardon on Aug 20, 2021 11:27:24 GMT
Not everybody has the same issues with a addiction, etc--so I'm not saying this to brag or anything--in fact I feel quite fortunate that I didn't go down that road. But after trying playing under the influence I realized how much it messes with my playing. So even if there were times in my past that I drank more than I should have, I never drank when I had work to do or music to play. these days I really ever drink, but that's more because I no longer enjoy the taste that much. Ina and setting I would say something if someone was being impaired from playing properly--but I wouldn't expect them all to be identical to my position. maybe if I was the bandleader? Luckily I've never succumbed to addiction, alcohol or drugs. Sadly my dad and sister were both alcoholics, especially towards the end of their lives. Never been a big drinker myself. At the most a couple of pints of shandy on the nights I go out. At home I may have an occasional bottle of beer with my main meal at tea-time or a glass of port.
As for drugs, the only thing I ever took in the 60s were stimulants, we called Bennies. Only did them to really keep awake. We were playing a lot of gigs each week and also working full-time. I never smoked stuff, be it cigarettes or joints.
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Post by highdeaf on Aug 20, 2021 15:20:09 GMT
The last night of one of the bands I played in more than a decade ago, the drummer got so drunk he started screaming at me 2 songs into the last set: "I can't play. You need to take over." Of note, I CAN NOT play drums. Not hardly a lick. He got up and walked off during our heaviest set, no drums for Zep or ACDC or ...... Needless to say, our last bar gig just before Christmas, and we had a good booking for NYE. Another one was a big jam, my band was scheduled to play later on. The bassplayer/singer, at the tailgate party, got so loaded he passed out, falling backwards into the truck. We could not rouse him. I teased him about it a couple weeks later, he got furious and we didn't talk for a few years after that. I bump into him occasionally at music stores, but other than that, nothing. I have no time for that kind of lack of control. The only other bandmate that caused that kind of frustration and division was that vegan I played with a couple times. No thanks, I don't need to constantly apologize for my decision to be an omnivore, exactly what we evolved to be. Don't miss him one iota.
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Post by Bill h on Aug 25, 2021 15:06:46 GMT
The last night of one of the bands I played in more than a decade ago, the drummer got so drunk he started screaming at me 2 songs into the last set: "I can't play. You need to take over." Of note, I CAN NOT play drums. Not hardly a lick. He got up and walked off during our heaviest set, no drums for Zep or ACDC or ...... Needless to say, our last bar gig just before Christmas, and we had a good booking for NYE. Another one was a big jam, my band was scheduled to play later on. The bassplayer/singer, at the tailgate party, got so loaded he passed out, falling backwards into the truck. We could not rouse him. I teased him about it a couple weeks later, he got furious and we didn't talk for a few years after that. I bump into him occasionally at music stores, but other than that, nothing. I have no time for that kind of lack of control. The only other bandmate that caused that kind of frustration and division was that vegan I played with a couple times. No thanks, I don't need to constantly apologize for my decision to be an omnivore, exactly what we evolved to be. Don't miss him one iota. “I can’t play”, believe it or not that actually happened to me at a club gig. This was also a drummer, he had arthritis in both hands and took a lot of medication for it. It was the last set, second to the last song, he looked up at me and said he couldn’t hold his sticks. I could tell by the look on his face he was struggling so we just called it a night right there. To his credit it was a five set gig, roughly 45-50 minutes a set and he almost made it to the end. We never played that club again, it was the only one in the area requiring 5 sets from a band anyhow.
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Post by Die Bullen on Aug 25, 2021 15:44:53 GMT
The last night of one of the bands I played in more than a decade ago, the drummer got so drunk he started screaming at me 2 songs into the last set: "I can't play. You need to take over." Of note, I CAN NOT play drums. Not hardly a lick. He got up and walked off during our heaviest set, no drums for Zep or ACDC or ...... Needless to say, our last bar gig just before Christmas, and we had a good booking for NYE. Another one was a big jam, my band was scheduled to play later on. The bassplayer/singer, at the tailgate party, got so loaded he passed out, falling backwards into the truck. We could not rouse him. I teased him about it a couple weeks later, he got furious and we didn't talk for a few years after that. I bump into him occasionally at music stores, but other than that, nothing. I have no time for that kind of lack of control. The only other bandmate that caused that kind of frustration and division was that vegan I played with a couple times. No thanks, I don't need to constantly apologize for my decision to be an omnivore, exactly what we evolved to be. Don't miss him one iota. “I can’t play”, believe it or not that actually happened to me at a club gig. This was also a drummer, he had arthritis in both hands and took a lot of medication for it. It was the last set, second to the last song, he looked up at me and said he couldn’t hold his sticks. I could tell by the look on his face he was struggling so we just called it a night right there. To his credit it was a five set gig, roughly 45-50 minutes a set and he almost made it to the end. We never played that club again, it was the only one in the area requiring 5 sets from a band anyhow. Good lord, 5 sets??? That's a heck of a lot of playing...
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Post by Bill h on Aug 25, 2021 18:23:01 GMT
“I can’t play”, believe it or not that actually happened to me at a club gig. This was also a drummer, he had arthritis in both hands and took a lot of medication for it. It was the last set, second to the last song, he looked up at me and said he couldn’t hold his sticks. I could tell by the look on his face he was struggling so we just called it a night right there. To his credit it was a five set gig, roughly 45-50 minutes a set and he almost made it to the end. We never played that club again, it was the only one in the area requiring 5 sets from a band anyhow. Good lord, 5 sets??? That's a heck of a lot of playing... Yep, only bar I ever played to this day that was 5 sets. We played somewhere between 45-50 songs to cover it. That was a long time ago with a band that had the same lineup for a couple years. Playing those kind of bar gigs are finished for me. I’m good with one-off local events and open mics these days.
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Post by Die Bullen on Aug 25, 2021 18:30:47 GMT
Good lord, 5 sets??? That's a heck of a lot of playing... Yep, only bar I ever played to this day that was 5 sets. We played somewhere between 45-50 songs to cover it. That was a long time ago with a band that had the same lineup for a couple years. Playing those kind of bar gigs are finished for me. I’m good with one-off local events and open mics these days. Quite honestly I either wouldn't take the gig or I would take it and charge them for the cost of 3 bands and rotate the musicians. That's a good 5 hours of music with breaks- I'd be charging a few grand for that one. We never play bars because I can't ever guarantee what the musicians will get paid from the door. Even if the rate isn't great I like to tell the musicians what they can expect at the end of the night.
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Post by highdeaf on Aug 25, 2021 18:31:33 GMT
The last night of one of the bands I played in more than a decade ago, the drummer got so drunk he started screaming at me 2 songs into the last set: "I can't play. You need to take over." Of note, I CAN NOT play drums. Not hardly a lick. He got up and walked off during our heaviest set, no drums for Zep or ACDC or ...... Needless to say, our last bar gig just before Christmas, and we had a good booking for NYE. Another one was a big jam, my band was scheduled to play later on. The bassplayer/singer, at the tailgate party, got so loaded he passed out, falling backwards into the truck. We could not rouse him. I teased him about it a couple weeks later, he got furious and we didn't talk for a few years after that. I bump into him occasionally at music stores, but other than that, nothing. I have no time for that kind of lack of control. The only other bandmate that caused that kind of frustration and division was that vegan I played with a couple times. No thanks, I don't need to constantly apologize for my decision to be an omnivore, exactly what we evolved to be. Don't miss him one iota. “I can’t play”, believe it or not that actually happened to me at a club gig. This was also a drummer, he had arthritis in both hands and took a lot of medication for it. It was the last set, second to the last song, he looked up at me and said he couldn’t hold his sticks. I could tell by the look on his face he was struggling so we just called it a night right there. To his credit it was a five set gig, roughly 45-50 minutes a set and he almost made it to the end. We never played that club again, it was the only one in the area requiring 5 sets from a band anyhow.
That was rough, and really not the drummer's fault, by the sounds of things. It appears he made an epic effort to get through a long evening. And he got damn close, by the sounds of things.
In my drummer's case, the band was offered free booze to go with the measly pittance they were paying us. The bass player and drummer thought they were worth a lot more than they really were, as they were downing hard ice teas with an extra 2 shots of vodka every break (plus a beer for sipping during the set). The rest of us were enjoying a few bevvies, but we didn't peg our worth at '4 ounces per set'.
So the drummer was too FU'd to be able to get past 2 songs into our 4th and last set. We still had about 40 minutes of commitment left - our heaviest and best set, IMO. Myself, the other guitar player and keyboard player were furious with both of them. I still saw them and jammed with them occasionally, but never played in a band with either of them after that.
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Post by highdeaf on Aug 25, 2021 18:36:51 GMT
Yep, only bar I ever played to this day that was 5 sets. We played somewhere between 45-50 songs to cover it. That was a long time ago with a band that had the same lineup for a couple years. Playing those kind of bar gigs are finished for me. I’m good with one-off local events and open mics these days. Quite honestly I either wouldn't take the gig or I would take it and charge them for the cost of 3 bands and rotate the musicians. That's a good 5 hours of music with breaks- I'd be charging a few grand for that one. We never play bars because I can't ever guarantee what the musicians will get paid from the door. Even if the rate isn't great I like to tell the musicians what they can expect at the end of the night.
I heard a great story, pre-Covid.
A 5 piece rock band was asked to play a Saturday evening party, roughly 4 hours of playing time plus set and strike, of course. They quote $600 (to cover technical as well). The party host balked, couldn't believe it would cost that much. The band guy responded: "Call a plumbing company, get them to estimate the cost of having 5 plumbers come to your house on a Saturday evening, from 8 to 1. We will do it for half of what their estimate comes in at."
Supply and demand, I guess. We undervalue ourselves because there are others that do, too. A race to the bottom. And I'm part of the problem, I'll play cheap because I just really like doing it. Very tough for anyone trying to make a living at it, that's for sure.
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Post by Bill h on Aug 25, 2021 19:07:21 GMT
Quite honestly I either wouldn't take the gig or I would take it and charge them for the cost of 3 bands and rotate the musicians. That's a good 5 hours of music with breaks- I'd be charging a few grand for that one. We never play bars because I can't ever guarantee what the musicians will get paid from the door. Even if the rate isn't great I like to tell the musicians what they can expect at the end of the night.
I heard a great story, pre-Covid.
A 5 piece rock band was asked to play a Saturday evening party, roughly 4 hours of playing time plus set and strike, of course. They quote $600 (to cover technical as well). The party host balked, couldn't believe it would cost that much. The band guy responded: "Call a plumbing company, get them to estimate the cost of having 5 plumbers come to your house on a Saturday evening, from 8 to 1. We will do it for half of what their estimate comes in at."
Supply and demand, I guess. We undervalue ourselves because there are others that do, too. A race to the bottom. And I'm part of the problem, I'll play cheap because I just really like doing it. Very tough for anyone trying to make a living at it, that's for sure.
Never made much money playing in bars myself. Most of the bars we played were dives anyway so if we made enough to cover expenses , a couple beers and some grub after the gig it was a win for us. We played cheap to, but so did everyone else so we were all part of the problem when it comes to money. Average dive paid about 500 bucks and some would work with you on a percentage of the door if you were lucky.
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Post by Die Bullen on Aug 25, 2021 19:09:02 GMT
Quite honestly I either wouldn't take the gig or I would take it and charge them for the cost of 3 bands and rotate the musicians. That's a good 5 hours of music with breaks- I'd be charging a few grand for that one. We never play bars because I can't ever guarantee what the musicians will get paid from the door. Even if the rate isn't great I like to tell the musicians what they can expect at the end of the night. The band guy responded: "Call a plumbing company, get them to estimate the cost of having 5 plumbers come to your house on a Saturday evening, from 8 to 1. We will do it for half of what their estimate comes in at."
Supply and demand, I guess. We undervalue ourselves because there are others that do, too. A race to the bottom. And I'm part of the problem, I'll play cheap because I just really like doing it. Very tough for anyone trying to make a living at it, that's for sure.
Love it! I am hardly a mercenary person when it comes to music, but I consider myself responsible for the well being of the band, which includes their being satisfied and valued for their time. For better or worse, I treat the band as a business, not as an artistic venture. Although hourly per person rates vary for a lot of circumstances, I established a per-person “absolute floor rate” for the band and I simply will not send guys out for less. I will cut pieces to hit a budget, starting with drums, and 4 players is a general minimum. Very rarely I will go down to 3 pieces (trumpet, trombone and guitar) but I always warn venues that doing so will result in enormous holes opening up. Recently I told one person, "just how do you expect a 3 piece band to play Sousa marches, which are written for 120 piece bands? We CAN do it with 5 or 6, but not 3" In this regard I am unyielding- if someone tells me the band is too much I simply reply, “well keep us in mind if you do a major gala or something”. I’ve even had some non-profits kick in extra money from their members because they couldn’t hit our rate as an organization. Like I said, I will only go so low and I know it keeps morale high among the musicians.
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Post by Bill h on Aug 25, 2021 19:24:46 GMT
The band guy responded: "Call a plumbing company, get them to estimate the cost of having 5 plumbers come to your house on a Saturday evening, from 8 to 1. We will do it for half of what their estimate comes in at."
Supply and demand, I guess. We undervalue ourselves because there are others that do, too. A race to the bottom. And I'm part of the problem, I'll play cheap because I just really like doing it. Very tough for anyone trying to make a living at it, that's for sure.
Love it! I am hardly a mercenary person when it comes to music, but I consider myself responsible for the well being of the band, which includes their being satisfied and valued for their time. For better or worse, I treat the band as a business, not as an artistic venture. Although hourly per person rates vary for a lot of circumstances, I established a per-person “absolute floor rate” for the band and I simply will not send guys out for less. I will cut pieces to hit a budget, starting with drums, and 4 players is a general minimum. Very rarely I will go down to 3 pieces (trumpet, trombone and guitar) but I always warn venues that doing so will result in enormous holes opening up. Recently I told one person, "just how do you expect a 3 piece band to play Sousa marches, which are written for 120 piece bands? We CAN do it with 5 or 6, but not 3" In this regard I am unyielding- if someone tells me the band is too much I simply reply, “well keep us in mind if you do a major gala or something”. I’ve even had some non-profits kick in extra money from their members because they couldn’t hit our rate as an organization. Like I said, I will only go so low and I know it keeps morale high among the musicians. The problem with playing in a working local rock band is that there are to many local rock bands, lots of competition for gigs and bar owners know it. The music you guys play is in a world I’m not familiar with so I was wondering, do you have a lot of competition for gigs? I was wondering also that if there was a lot of competition do you keep an eye on what the other locals are charging.
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Post by Die Bullen on Aug 25, 2021 19:56:57 GMT
Love it! I am hardly a mercenary person when it comes to music, but I consider myself responsible for the well being of the band, which includes their being satisfied and valued for their time. For better or worse, I treat the band as a business, not as an artistic venture. Although hourly per person rates vary for a lot of circumstances, I established a per-person “absolute floor rate” for the band and I simply will not send guys out for less. I will cut pieces to hit a budget, starting with drums, and 4 players is a general minimum. Very rarely I will go down to 3 pieces (trumpet, trombone and guitar) but I always warn venues that doing so will result in enormous holes opening up. Recently I told one person, "just how do you expect a 3 piece band to play Sousa marches, which are written for 120 piece bands? We CAN do it with 5 or 6, but not 3" In this regard I am unyielding- if someone tells me the band is too much I simply reply, “well keep us in mind if you do a major gala or something”. I’ve even had some non-profits kick in extra money from their members because they couldn’t hit our rate as an organization. Like I said, I will only go so low and I know it keeps morale high among the musicians. The problem with playing in a working local rock band is that there are to many local rock bands, lots of competition for gigs and bar owners know it. The music you guys play is in a world I’m not familiar with so I was wondering, do you have a lot of competition for gigs? I was wondering also that if there was a lot of competition do you keep an eye on what the other locals are charging. Good question. I suppose the truth is that anyone who is looking to provide entertainment (whether a musician, a speaker or a magician) is really the competition. Entertainment and programming dollars are finite and whoever can grab them will try to. Jazz bands are a dime a dozen and guys on every instrument are looking for work. People ask me all the time why I don't bring them in as subs more often- my answer: I don't need them. Sure I need a sub from time to time but my list of potential subs is so long that unless you are number 1, 2 or 3 on the list, I probably won't ever call you because someone else would have taken it. We try to distinguish ourselves in other ways by distancing ourselves from "being forced to do what the jazz guys expect" by pushing just about any kind of music I think we can sell. Polkas, Irish music, Latin, Dixieland and historical music we will all play because the key is finding consumers of the material who will pay. So sure, no bar will ever ask in a brass band that is playing polkas, but there are plenty of other places that DO want that, especially if you do it well.
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Post by infant on Aug 25, 2021 23:43:11 GMT
Many of the guys in my current band played in wedding bands back in the 80s and 90s….mainly playing italian weddings and some corporate type gigs. Towards the end of the 90s we were getting $1800/night for a 6 pc band. After 1999, gigs dried up and we broke up. It seems a whole generation of kids grew up listening to DJs and deprived of live music. Around 2005, we started this current band as one of the guys was asked if they could do a small corporate gig. We got $1000 for a 5pc band and shortly thereafter we got a few more gigs here and there and we tried to get at least $150 per man per gig. However, a few of us started playing with another band for a little while and got our foot in the door at some Legions. However at legions, we were only getting paid $400-500 a night or $80-100 per man. It was a hard sell for the remaining band members who hadn’t played the legions but It became easy money for a 3 hour gig and we basically called it a paid rehearsal as we knew the stuff and used the gigs to just get tighter. Pre COVID-19, we still got calls for corporate gigs, weddings and Italian dinner-dances and we still got $900-1200 a night for them. Far cry from what we used to get in the 90s but at least we were playing.
The thing that pisses me off are the guys who think we should be playing for less because they only see us having fun playing music. They don’t see us loading the stuff up in the car before the gig, setting it all up, tearing it down and unloading it all at home late at night. They don’t realize that a 3 hour gig requires an additional 2 hours beforehand and another 2 hours afterward. I’ve always said that we play for free, we get paid to set up and tear down.
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Post by Die Bullen on Aug 26, 2021 0:02:05 GMT
Many of the guys in my current band played in wedding bands back in the 80s and 90s….mainly playing italian weddings and some corporate type gigs. Towards the end of the 90s we were getting $1800/night for a 6 pc band. After 1999, gigs dried up and we broke up. It seems a whole generation of kids grew up listening to DJs and deprived of live music. Around 2005, we started this current band as one of the guys was asked if they could do a small corporate gig. We got $1000 for a 5pc band and shortly thereafter we got a few more gigs here and there and we tried to get at least $150 per man per gig. However, a few of us started playing with another band for a little while and got our foot in the door at some Legions. However at legions, we were only getting paid $400-500 a night or $80-100 per man. It was a hard sell for the remaining band members who hadn’t played the legions but It became easy money for a 3 hour gig and we basically called it a paid rehearsal as we knew the stuff and used the gigs to just get tighter. Pre COVID-19, we still got calls for corporate gigs, weddings and Italian dinner-dances and we still got $900-1200 a night for them. Far cry from what we used to get in the 90s but at least we were playing. The thing that pisses me off are the guys who think we should be playing for less because they only see us having fun playing music. They don’t see us loading the stuff up in the car before the gig, setting it all up, tearing it down and unloading it all at home late at night. They don’t realize that a 3 hour gig requires an additional 2 hours beforehand and another 2 hours afterward. I’ve always said that we play for free, we get paid to set up and tear down.Don't forget the thousands of hours that professional musicians need to practice over many years to be able to get to the point where they will delight audiences, the wear and tear on your gear and car, the gas money. It is tough to make money in this business. In my town there was a jazz festival for years where they brought in all pro bands (in fact my son's band played there) and the rates were around $100 per person for 2 hours. Not a blow out, but at least not a slap in the face. Through the years they degraded the quality of the bands, abandoning many professional players and now bringing in bands that were "looking for exposure" (=play for free). I flat out won't even put our band forward for that festival anymore- I can't be bothered.
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Post by laristotle on Aug 26, 2021 0:04:39 GMT
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Post by Die Bullen on Aug 26, 2021 0:31:36 GMT
Far too often the case for real....
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Post by Bill h on Aug 26, 2021 14:51:40 GMT
Far too often the case for real.... I agree, lots of truth in that. Been there, done it.
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Post by highdeaf on Aug 26, 2021 15:29:22 GMT
The thing that pisses me off are the guys who think we should be playing for less because they only see us having fun playing music. They don’t see us loading the stuff up in the car before the gig, setting it all up, tearing it down and unloading it all at home late at night. They don’t realize that a 3 hour gig requires an additional 2 hours beforehand and another 2 hours afterward. I’ve always said that we play for free, we get paid to set up and tear down.
I guess this guy would never pay for a ticket to see a pro sports event of any kind. Ever.
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Post by Bill h on Aug 27, 2021 4:07:16 GMT
Many of the guys in my current band played in wedding bands back in the 80s and 90s….mainly playing italian weddings and some corporate type gigs. Towards the end of the 90s we were getting $1800/night for a 6 pc band. After 1999, gigs dried up and we broke up. It seems a whole generation of kids grew up listening to DJs and deprived of live music. Around 2005, we started this current band as one of the guys was asked if they could do a small corporate gig. We got $1000 for a 5pc band and shortly thereafter we got a few more gigs here and there and we tried to get at least $150 per man per gig. However, a few of us started playing with another band for a little while and got our foot in the door at some Legions. However at legions, we were only getting paid $400-500 a night or $80-100 per man. It was a hard sell for the remaining band members who hadn’t played the legions but It became easy money for a 3 hour gig and we basically called it a paid rehearsal as we knew the stuff and used the gigs to just get tighter. Pre COVID-19, we still got calls for corporate gigs, weddings and Italian dinner-dances and we still got $900-1200 a night for them. Far cry from what we used to get in the 90s but at least we were playing. The thing that pisses me off are the guys who think we should be playing for less because they only see us having fun playing music. They don’t see us loading the stuff up in the car before the gig, setting it all up, tearing it down and unloading it all at home late at night. They don’t realize that a 3 hour gig requires an additional 2 hours beforehand and another 2 hours afterward. I’ve always said that we play for free, we get paid to set up and tear down. That’s true, most folks don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, then again, if you have never been a gigging musician why would you know. Bar owners that have bands all the time are aware for the most part and want to low ball you anyway. I’ve found that busy clubs are the worst, they want to make your band feel like they are privileged to play there so you will accept the pocket change they offer. Never played weddings/dances so I’ve never had to haggle with anyone over gigs like that.
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Post by infant on Aug 27, 2021 10:49:30 GMT
Many of the guys in my current band played in wedding bands back in the 80s and 90s….mainly playing italian weddings and some corporate type gigs. Towards the end of the 90s we were getting $1800/night for a 6 pc band. After 1999, gigs dried up and we broke up. It seems a whole generation of kids grew up listening to DJs and deprived of live music. Around 2005, we started this current band as one of the guys was asked if they could do a small corporate gig. We got $1000 for a 5pc band and shortly thereafter we got a few more gigs here and there and we tried to get at least $150 per man per gig. However, a few of us started playing with another band for a little while and got our foot in the door at some Legions. However at legions, we were only getting paid $400-500 a night or $80-100 per man. It was a hard sell for the remaining band members who hadn’t played the legions but It became easy money for a 3 hour gig and we basically called it a paid rehearsal as we knew the stuff and used the gigs to just get tighter. Pre COVID-19, we still got calls for corporate gigs, weddings and Italian dinner-dances and we still got $900-1200 a night for them. Far cry from what we used to get in the 90s but at least we were playing. The thing that pisses me off are the guys who think we should be playing for less because they only see us having fun playing music. They don’t see us loading the stuff up in the car before the gig, setting it all up, tearing it down and unloading it all at home late at night. They don’t realize that a 3 hour gig requires an additional 2 hours beforehand and another 2 hours afterward. I’ve always said that we play for free, we get paid to set up and tear down. That’s true, most folks don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, then again, if you have never been a gigging musician why would you know. Bar owners that have bands all the time are aware for the most part and want to low ball you anyway. I’ve found that busy clubs are the worst, they want to make your band feel like they are privileged to play there so you will accept the pocket change they offer. Never played weddings/dances so I’ve never had to haggle with anyone over gigs like that. Back when we did weddings, there was no haggling over price. Just like the dinner menu or the photographer, we had a set price and since we were in demand, people paid. Nowadays, we compete with DJs for wedding or dinner/dance gigs. The first time that we went to play a legion, the guy booking us didn't want to pay much as he hadn't heard us. So we gave him a good deal. After the gig, he approached me to book us again and he had no qualms giving us another $100 as we packed the place.
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Post by laristotle on Aug 27, 2021 11:45:36 GMT
Every wedding reception that I've attended where a band was playing and they announce their last song, a member of the wedding party would walk the floor with a hat collecting money for the band to continue playing. One Italian wedding that I was at (~200 guests), they collected over $1000. Good band too. They played for another hour.
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Post by Die Bullen on Aug 27, 2021 13:46:19 GMT
Every wedding reception that I've attended where a band was playing and they announce their last song, a member of the wedding party would walk the floor with a hat collecting money for the band to continue playing. One Italian wedding that I was at (~200 guests), they collected over $1000. Good band too. They played for another hour. That's a pretty generous tip!
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Post by infant on Aug 27, 2021 16:23:40 GMT
Every wedding reception that I've attended where a band was playing and they announce their last song, a member of the wedding party would walk the floor with a hat collecting money for the band to continue playing. One Italian wedding that I was at (~200 guests), they collected over $1000. Good band too. They played for another hour. We’d usually play an extra 15-20 minutes, especially if the meal ran late. Then sometimes, the owner of the hall would have a say in it and turn on all the lights to get everyone out because he has a cleaning staff coming in to put away the tables and chairs and tidy up. We would normally be booked from 9:00pm - 1:00am. Sometimes the meal and speeches would run long and we’d start between 9:30-10:00. The latest we ever started was 11:00pm.
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Post by zontar on Aug 28, 2021 0:45:46 GMT
Every wedding reception that I've attended where a band was playing and they announce their last song, a member of the wedding party would walk the floor with a hat collecting money for the band to continue playing. One Italian wedding that I was at (~200 guests), they collected over $1000. Good band too. They played for another hour. Almost all the weddings I've been too have had a DJ, not a band but that also depends on the band. At one wedding the band was country band the groom liked. But they only played Country music --and the DJ that played during their breaks & afterwards played a variety of music Even people who like Country music didn't all like ht band as it was narrow example of country music. But hey--the groom liked it which I guess was okay--it was his wedding.
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Post by johnreardon on Aug 28, 2021 7:28:53 GMT
Every wedding reception that I've attended where a band was playing and they announce their last song, a member of the wedding party would walk the floor with a hat collecting money for the band to continue playing. One Italian wedding that I was at (~200 guests), they collected over $1000. Good band too. They played for another hour. Almost all the weddings I've been too have had a DJ, not a band but that also depends on the band. At one wedding the band was country band the groom liked. But they only played Country music --and the DJ that played during their breaks & afterwards played a variety of music Even people who like Country music didn't all like ht band as it was narrow example of country music. But hey--the groom liked it which I guess was okay--it was his wedding. Hate to say it, but DJs are probably better at weddings, with the wide age range you get.
Country music at a wedding is a bit slit your throat though
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Post by Die Bullen on Aug 28, 2021 12:17:07 GMT
Almost all the weddings I've been too have had a DJ, not a band but that also depends on the band. At one wedding the band was country band the groom liked. But they only played Country music --and the DJ that played during their breaks & afterwards played a variety of music Even people who like Country music didn't all like ht band as it was narrow example of country music. But hey--the groom liked it which I guess was okay--it was his wedding. Hate to say it, but DJs are probably better at weddings, with the wide age range you get.
Country music at a wedding is a bit slit your throat though Yeah, a DJ can basically play anything, any band will have some limitations
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Post by infant on Aug 28, 2021 12:31:34 GMT
Almost all the weddings I've been too have had a DJ, not a band but that also depends on the band. At one wedding the band was country band the groom liked. But they only played Country music --and the DJ that played during their breaks & afterwards played a variety of music Even people who like Country music didn't all like ht band as it was narrow example of country music. But hey--the groom liked it which I guess was okay--it was his wedding. Hate to say it, but DJs are probably better at weddings, with the wide age range you get.
Country music at a wedding is a bit slit your throat though We’ve done a few weddings where we’ve shared the work with a DJ. We would play the first hour, then the DJ would do an hour, etc. We still got paid the same. At one wedding, the brides father played in a band and he and his bandmates came up and played a few songs before the DJ took over. We always have one or two country tunes in our back pocket in case anyone requests one.
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Post by Die Bullen on Aug 28, 2021 16:10:36 GMT
Hate to say it, but DJs are probably better at weddings, with the wide age range you get.
Country music at a wedding is a bit slit your throat though We’ve done a few weddings where we’ve shared the work with a DJ. We would play the first hour, then the DJ would do an hour, etc. We still got paid the same. At one wedding, the brides father played in a band and he and his bandmates came up and played a few songs before the DJ took over. We always have one or two country tunes in our back pocket in case anyone requests one. Last time we priced out a gala, I would have had to have hired a sound guy, so my plan was to flip him to DJ during dinner, etc. Totally makes sense. Corona killed that gig however, which stinks as it would have been very lucrative
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Post by zontar on Aug 28, 2021 23:58:18 GMT
Hate to say it, but DJs are probably better at weddings, with the wide age range you get.
Country music at a wedding is a bit slit your throat though We’ve done a few weddings where we’ve shared the work with a DJ. We would play the first hour, then the DJ would do an hour, etc. We still got paid the same. At one wedding, the brides father played in a band and he and his bandmates came up and played a few songs before the DJ took over. We always have one or two country tunes in our back pocket in case anyone requests one. that's what happened at the wedding I was referring to--so at least it wasn't all country, all the time. Much of my extended family seems to really be into Country music & derivatives or related genres--such as bluegrass When I bought a mandolin and a picture got posted on social media (no by me though) a lot of my family thought I got it to play bluegrass.
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Post by laristotle on Aug 29, 2021 11:51:24 GMT
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