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Post by Mindfrigg on Dec 13, 2015 16:18:05 GMT
Yeah, the graying of the box has helped there.
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Post by gooner on Dec 13, 2015 17:17:21 GMT
Are you using the Traynor 1x12 that has the Greenback or the Vintage 30? Damn, this site makes it hard to know where to type my reply... anyway, my Traynor cab has Celestion's so-called Seventy-Eighty When you are replying to a post, hit the BBCode tab at the bottom of the reply. On this option the differentiation is clear.
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Post by Grand Toad on Dec 15, 2015 2:22:47 GMT
Pictures of what's inside a Phaez. Yes sir, best amp every. A blind chimp could do better.
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Post by Colchar on Dec 15, 2015 3:26:48 GMT
I don't get the Phaez circle jerk that goes on at MLP. If you check other forums there is little mention of them. When they are mentioned, it isn't always good. And when it is good you see names that you recognize from MLP are the ones promoting Phaez amps. And if they are so fucking incredible, why are there so many for sale on such a regular basis? I just did a search at the MLP classified section and damn, there have been a bunch of those amps for sale in the last few months. Why would people be selling the greatest amps ever created?
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Post by Maxwell on Dec 15, 2015 13:11:01 GMT
Well they're hand wired. Erruhbody be knowing that hand wired is mo better than circuit boards...because a circuit board ain't hand wired so it ain't as good as hand wired because if it was hand wired it would be as good as hand wired but it ain't so it ain't...
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Post by tommo on Dec 15, 2015 20:30:38 GMT
Well they're hand wired. Erruhbody be knowing that hand wired is mo better than circuit boards...because a circuit board ain't hand wired so it ain't as good as hand wired because if it was hand wired it would be as good as hand wired but it ain't so it ain't...
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Post by 79standard on Dec 17, 2015 1:31:41 GMT
Damn, this site makes it hard to know where to type my reply... anyway, my Traynor cab has Celestion's so-called Seventy-Eighty When you are replying to a post, hit the BBCode tab at the bottom of the reply. On this option the differentiation is clear. Cheers, John!
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Post by 79standard on Dec 17, 2015 1:33:44 GMT
Well they're hand wired. Erruhbody be knowing that hand wired is mo better than circuit boards...because a circuit board ain't hand wired so it ain't as good as hand wired because if it was hand wired it would be as good as hand wired but it ain't so it ain't... That's just the most logical logic that's ever been logisticized, maybe.
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Post by 79standard on Dec 17, 2015 1:39:02 GMT
I don't get the Phaez circle jerk that goes on at MLP. If you check other forums there is little mention of them. When they are mentioned, it isn't always good. And when it is good you see names that you recognize from MLP are the ones promoting Phaez amps. And if they are so fucking incredible, why are there so many for sale on such a regular basis? I just did a search at the MLP classified section and damn, there have been a bunch of those amps for sale in the last few months. Why would people be selling the greatest amps ever created? I hardly ever heared 'bout them silly things, and now I'm findin' there's a whole danged subculture?
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Post by 79standard on Dec 17, 2015 1:41:41 GMT
Just found out we've been mispronouncing Ricky Gervais's name since forever. He's the Carmine Appice (rhymes with "apiece") of his generation.
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Post by 79standard on Dec 17, 2015 1:44:08 GMT
Yeah, the graying of the box has helped there. Well, since I discovered Grecian Formula 16 that hasn't been a problem. wait... whut... ?
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Post by 79standard on Dec 17, 2015 1:47:42 GMT
For the record (back to amps for a second), I'll put my JFK-era Danelectro 2x12 combo against any boutique amp in the land. 6L6s in cathode bias, not that I am 100% sure what that means, but that's what my tech tells me. It's a quirky, unique circuit. Ken Fischer of Trainwreck amps said it was one of his favorite designs. But what matters most is that *I* like it!
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Post by gooner on Dec 17, 2015 7:55:33 GMT
Well they're hand wired. Erruhbody be knowing that hand wired is mo better than circuit boards...because a circuit board ain't hand wired so it ain't as good as hand wired because if it was hand wired it would be as good as hand wired but it ain't so it ain't... That's just the most logical logic that's ever been logisticized, maybe. The only advantage I can see over a well designed circuit board would be the ease of repair, there is a little bit more room to manoeuvre in a tidy, hand wired amp. Unless of course the fibres in a circuit board strangles your tonez.
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Post by Maxwell on Dec 17, 2015 16:29:15 GMT
With a board, you have total control over lead length, soldering, QC, component QC, assembly time, costs, etc., etc... Quality on Friday and Monday is the same as every other day... Automation is a beautiful thing... True, replacing a component in a hand wired can be easier for Soldering Klewbies but there will be FAR more incidence of faulty/cold solder joints with hand wired than automated assembly. (Some purists may have stroked out on that last statement but I stand by it.) The exception to the above is some of the small custom builders that ARE the shit and ARE real solderers. (Soldering is a science and you NEVER get good enough at it.) They are neat because it is their rep on the line and THEY do it themselves, not some flunky. You PAY for that personal touch too... To give you an easy to grasp idea about QC in soldering, how many cables, unbal or bal, have any of you had to repair and you look at the factory solder job and are speechless... Looks like a kid with a blowtorch soldered it... How many XLRs have you seen that you cannot figure out how the damn wire stayed in the barrel as long as it did? Outside the barrel? Soldered only to top of barrel? Not even soldered? How many times have you opened a control cavity on a guitar and you think you know why the guitar is heavy because there's a couple of pounds of solder in there....connections look like marbles...blackened marbles...
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Post by gooner on Dec 18, 2015 1:20:21 GMT
With a board, you have total control over lead length, soldering, QC, component QC, assembly time, costs, etc., etc... Quality on Friday and Monday is the same as every other day... Automation is a beautiful thing... True, replacing a component in a hand wired can be easier for Soldering Klewbies but there will be FAR more incidence of faulty/cold solder joints with hand wired than automated assembly. (Some purists may have stroked out on that last statement but I stand by it.) The exception to the above is some of the small custom builders that ARE the shit and ARE real solderers. (Soldering is a science and you NEVER get good enough at it.) They are neat because it is their rep on the line and THEY do it themselves, not some flunky. You PAY for that personal touch too... To give you an easy to grasp idea about QC in soldering, how many cables, unbal or bal, have any of you had to repair and you look at the factory solder job and are speechless... Looks like a kid with a blowtorch soldered it... How many XLRs have you seen that you cannot figure out how the damn wire stayed in the barrel as long as it did? Outside the barrel? Soldered only to top of barrel? Not even soldered? How many times have you opened a control cavity on a guitar and you think you know why the guitar is heavy because there's a couple of pounds of solder in there....connections look like marbles...blackened marbles... I was thinking along the lines of Hiwatt. Top quality right through. Even now, irrespective of the dodgy owners, the factory is producing top notch hand wired amps.
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Post by Schidney on Dec 18, 2015 3:35:31 GMT
With a board, you have total control over lead length, soldering, QC, component QC, assembly time, costs, etc., etc... Quality on Friday and Monday is the same as every other day... Automation is a beautiful thing... True, replacing a component in a hand wired can be easier for Soldering Klewbies but there will be FAR more incidence of faulty/cold solder joints with hand wired than automated assembly. (Some purists may have stroked out on that last statement but I stand by it.) The exception to the above is some of the small custom builders that ARE the shit and ARE real solderers. (Soldering is a science and you NEVER get good enough at it.) They are neat because it is their rep on the line and THEY do it themselves, not some flunky. You PAY for that personal touch too... To give you an easy to grasp idea about QC in soldering, how many cables, unbal or bal, have any of you had to repair and you look at the factory solder job and are speechless... Looks like a kid with a blowtorch soldered it... How many XLRs have you seen that you cannot figure out how the damn wire stayed in the barrel as long as it did? Outside the barrel? Soldered only to top of barrel? Not even soldered? How many times have you opened a control cavity on a guitar and you think you know why the guitar is heavy because there's a couple of pounds of solder in there....connections look like marbles...blackened marbles... I was thinking along the lines of Hiwatt. Top quality right through. Even now, irrespective of the dodgy owners, the factory is producing top notch hand wired amps. They're amps are mighty. Cost a fortune to buy but by feck do they deliver. JJ had a liking for them to back in the day.
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Post by Maxwell on Dec 18, 2015 5:24:13 GMT
HiWatt must have very good QC and they don't churn 'em out the back door as fast as humanly possible...
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Post by gooner on Dec 18, 2015 10:23:09 GMT
HiWatt must have very good QC and they don't churn 'em out the back door as fast as humanly possible... They don't have a good rep at the moment because of the owners, but from what I've read the hand built amps in the UK are very decent. Snares bought a 50 w combo and seems pretty pleased with it. They do a line of pcb amps made in China which also have had really good reviews.
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Post by gooner on Dec 18, 2015 11:12:21 GMT
HiWatt must have very good QC and they don't churn 'em out the back door as fast as humanly possible... They don't have a good rep at the moment because of the owners, but from what I've read the hand built amps in the UK are very decent. Snares bought a 50 w combo and seems pretty pleased with it. They do a line of pcb amps made in China which also have had really good reviews. Here's a demo....
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Post by Maxwell on Dec 18, 2015 15:09:52 GMT
I could dig a HiWatt... I remember way back in 'da stack dayz' how damn loud they were...
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Post by Schidney on Dec 18, 2015 19:08:35 GMT
I could dig a HiWatt... I remember way back in 'da stack dayz' how damn loud they were... That they were. Long time ago now used to do jam sessions in & around Glasgow. Lots of dodgy amps & cabs. Was a damn miracle if someone brought a half decent rig to the show. Anyway, one such night in a pub in Paisley some guy supplied a Hiwatt amp head with a Marshall cab for the bass players. Plugged me Fender P Bass into it & never even messed about with the settings. LOUD! & what an amazing sound. Fell instantly in love with it then almost as quick fell out of love when got told how much they cost.
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Post by Colchar on Dec 18, 2015 23:30:21 GMT
I would love a Hiwatt because of how much I love The Who but unless they make a little 25 watt head or combo there is no point in even thinking about it because they are moronically loud for live use, never mind home use by someone like me.
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Post by gooner on Dec 19, 2015 2:02:42 GMT
I would love a Hiwatt because of how much I love The Who but unless they make a little 25 watt head or combo there is no point in even thinking about it because they are moronically loud for live use, never mind home use by someone like me. Check this out..... 20w with the ability to go down to 1w or .5w, can't remember which.
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Post by Colchar on Dec 19, 2015 4:10:15 GMT
I would love a Hiwatt because of how much I love The Who but unless they make a little 25 watt head or combo there is no point in even thinking about it because they are moronically loud for live use, never mind home use by someone like me. Check this out..... 20w with the ability to go down to 1w or .5w, can't remember which. I think I just wet myself! I tried to find prices but couldn't see any listed anywhere. I expect that they will cost a mint. They do have other small heads though.
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Post by gooner on Dec 19, 2015 9:17:33 GMT
Check this out..... 20w with the ability to go down to 1w or .5w, can't remember which. I think I just wet myself! I tried to find prices but couldn't see any listed anywhere. I expect that they will cost a mint. They do have other small heads though. They are around the £1k mark here, Chicago Music Exchange sell them in the States I think, not sure about Canada, the T series are made in China and the 20w is around £350
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Post by Colchar on Dec 19, 2015 14:38:19 GMT
I think I just wet myself! I tried to find prices but couldn't see any listed anywhere. I expect that they will cost a mint. They do have other small heads though. They are around the £1k mark here, Chicago Music Exchange sell them in the States I think, not sure about Canada, the T series are made in China and the 20w is around £350 I just checked and the Little D (so the Gilmour amp) is $1999 at CMS.
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Post by Schidney on Dec 19, 2015 15:16:38 GMT
They are around the £1k mark here, Chicago Music Exchange sell them in the States I think, not sure about Canada, the T series are made in China and the 20w is around £350 I just checked and the Little D (so the Gilmour amp) is $1999 at CMS. How much is that in real money?
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Post by Maxwell on Dec 19, 2015 17:18:59 GMT
Damn you, gooner! Just listened to that second HiWatt vid on my office on good speakers....
Oh my Homey Jeebus! AIRBURST!
Dayum.... My jones list just got longer... Damn you....
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Post by Colchar on Dec 19, 2015 19:39:56 GMT
I just checked and the Little D (so the Gilmour amp) is $1999 at CMS. How much is that in real money? Roughly 1340 quid. That is for the 'D' (David Gilmour) version. I expect that the 'J' (Jimmy Page) and 'P' (Pete Townshend) versions will cost the same.
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Post by Schidney on Dec 19, 2015 19:46:30 GMT
Feckin hell. Don't come cheap eh?
Bet the bass versions are in the 2k range.
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