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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 1:47:26 GMT
When I was younger, I had a distinct preference for Teles, but as I get older, I have an increasing appreciation for Strats...Nothing to do with vibrato systems (cause I like my Strats with hardtails), but ergonomically, the Strat just feels so much more comfortable to play. But, I scratched my Tele build itch a few times over the years.....
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 25, 2021 2:30:29 GMT
Confession- my strat has never had the tremolo bar put in. The little silver sticker covering the hole is still there
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Post by infant on Jan 25, 2021 3:50:46 GMT
The Strat that I gave to my son is a hard tail. It is definitely more comfortable than any guitar I’ve owned BUT, the location of the volume control causes me to inadvertently turn it down while I play. It’s much too close to the bridge.
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Post by johnreardon on Jan 25, 2021 8:38:23 GMT
When I was younger, I had a distinct preference for Teles, but as I get older, I have an increasing appreciation for Strats...Nothing to do with vibrato systems (cause I like my Strats with hardtails), but ergonomically, the Strat just feels so much more comfortable to play. But, I scratched my Tele build itch a few times over the years..... You don't see many Tele basses, at least over here. Nice
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 13:33:10 GMT
When I was younger, I had a distinct preference for Teles, but as I get older, I have an increasing appreciation for Strats...Nothing to do with vibrato systems (cause I like my Strats with hardtails), but ergonomically, the Strat just feels so much more comfortable to play. But, I scratched my Tele build itch a few times over the years..... You don't see many Tele basses, at least over here. Nice Basses with a Tele body shape didn't exist when I did the small one. It's a conversion of guitar parts in a 25.5" scale. The larger one I did later using a 34" scale Precision neck. Since then, Fender's started building 32" Tele basses in that body shape. The larger one I put together ended up being a neck diver, and I rebodied it later in the same body style as the bigger early 70's Tele basses.
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Post by zontar on Jan 31, 2021 1:50:09 GMT
The Strat that I gave to my son is a hard tail. It is definitely more comfortable than any guitar I’ve owned BUT, the location of the volume control causes me to inadvertently turn it down while I play. It’s much too close to the bridge. It's one of those love it or hate it scenarios--A lot of players love where it is as they can do volume swells with their little finger. As for me, no Strat--but I do have a volume pedal.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 31, 2021 22:05:39 GMT
The Strat that I gave to my son is a hard tail. It is definitely more comfortable than any guitar I’ve owned BUT, the location of the volume control causes me to inadvertently turn it down while I play. It’s much too close to the bridge. It's one of those love it or hate it scenarios--A lot of players love where it is as they can do volume swells with their little finger. As for me, no Strat--but I do have a volume pedal. I've actually thought about getting a volume pedal because the guitars I gig with are not easy to get to the volume conveniently
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Post by zontar on Feb 1, 2021 1:21:25 GMT
It's one of those love it or hate it scenarios--A lot of players love where it is as they can do volume swells with their little finger. As for me, no Strat--but I do have a volume pedal. I've actually thought about getting a volume pedal because the guitars I gig with are not easy to get to the volume conveniently I do like the ability to do volume swells As well, sometimes it’s the better way to turn yourself down between songs
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 1, 2021 2:13:50 GMT
Time for me to post a new thread or should I just ask here for suggestions?
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Post by zontar on Feb 1, 2021 2:37:12 GMT
Time for me to post a new thread or should I just ask here for suggestions? For volume pedals?
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 1, 2021 12:13:06 GMT
Time for me to post a new thread or should I just ask here for suggestions? I used to have a Morley volume pedal which was ok, but never used it at gigs so gave it away. The thing I liked was it was quite wide though
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 1, 2021 12:25:17 GMT
Time for me to post a new thread or should I just ask here for suggestions? For volume pedals? yeah
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 1, 2021 12:26:07 GMT
Time for me to post a new thread or should I just ask here for suggestions? I used to have a Morley volume pedal which was ok, but never used it at gigs so gave it away. The thing I liked was it was quite wide though wide meaning volume difference or the width? (not being funny)
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 1, 2021 13:40:11 GMT
I used to have a Morley volume pedal which was ok, but never used it at gigs so gave it away. The thing I liked was it was quite wide though wide meaning volume difference or the width? (not being funny) The width for your foot. It was a lot bigger than the pedals used by our other guitarist. I think they eventually came out with a smaller one, but this was quite bulky
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Post by infant on Feb 1, 2021 15:16:48 GMT
Yes, those Morley pedals (volume and wah) were HUGE! I was looking at a Morley Wah at one time and figured that it would just take up too much real estate on my board. I settled for a Vox V845.
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Post by zontar on Feb 1, 2021 17:32:21 GMT
wide meaning volume difference or the width? (not being funny) The width for your foot. It was a lot bigger than the pedals used by our other guitarist. I think they eventually came out with a smaller one, but this was quite bulky That was Morley's trademark of sorts--their pedals were humungous--and often heavy. I've encountered Morley pedals that were heavier than all my pedals combined. (or at least the ones I use on a somewhat regular basis)
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Post by zontar on Feb 1, 2021 17:38:18 GMT
You can ask here--you do have some responses. But I will answer here. There are two main types to consider in volume pedals--passive & active. Passive do not need a power supply--they are basically a volume pot you operate by foot. There are a variety of ways of doing that--and some are cheaper than others--which can affect the price. Active require a power source & provide other options-much like active pickups/preamp on a guitar ro bass--and may offer other options. they tend to cost more. I prefer passive, but some find active useful. I have two Dunlop High Gain Volume pedals--one for the bass board & the other for the guitar board. (In a nice bit of symmetry I bought them both on the same date, but different years) They operate smoothly--which is important for volume swells, and aren't super expensive & are sturdier & better operating than cheap ones. Many I've see are more like kill switches - they don't make a gradual difference. So if what you want is a foot operated kill switch those would be okay--but my Dunlop pedals give me a range. there are other ones that are smooth as well. I would say, if you want a nice smooth action to it& gradual volume change--try some in person to see what works best for your purposes.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 1, 2021 18:37:51 GMT
Thank you for the clarifications.
I'd probably be more interested in a passive pedal with a more gradual range. Batteries are just another thing to have to worry about failing at the worst moment on a job.
The only thing I ever had by Morley was an AB switch, but I found it to be kind of noisy. I actually tried a couple and found it the same for both. I'm not sure if their volume pedals are better but Dunlop sounds like it is likely a better choice.
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Post by zontar on Feb 1, 2021 22:46:49 GMT
Maybe start a new thread & see if anybody prefers a different brand as well
Although I like my Dunlop pedals
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Post by Bill h on Feb 17, 2021 17:02:47 GMT
Thank you for the clarifications. I'd probably be more interested in a passive pedal with a more gradual range. Batteries are just another thing to have to worry about failing at the worst moment on a job. The only thing I ever had by Morley was an AB switch, but I found it to be kind of noisy. I actually tried a couple and found it the same for both. I'm not sure if their volume pedals are better but Dunlop sounds like it is likely a better choice. Next time you go to a music store give the ernie ball jr a try., solid and smooth, never had a problem with mine.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 17, 2021 17:53:12 GMT
Thank you for the clarifications. I'd probably be more interested in a passive pedal with a more gradual range. Batteries are just another thing to have to worry about failing at the worst moment on a job. The only thing I ever had by Morley was an AB switch, but I found it to be kind of noisy. I actually tried a couple and found it the same for both. I'm not sure if their volume pedals are better but Dunlop sounds like it is likely a better choice. Next time you go to a music store give the ernie ball jr a try., solid and smooth, never had a problem with mine. Thanks for the reminder- maybe I will head over to Sam Ash tonight and have a look!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 4:49:48 GMT
Since this is a Tele thread, I'm going to veer back on course. This is a partscaster I threw together in 2008. ...and here's a 59 Tele I restored for a friend from a heavily modified original
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Post by zontar on Feb 18, 2021 7:19:03 GMT
Again with the the flames!
Seriously though--it seems to be a trademark of yours.
I remember seeing a bunch of variations & in progress shots before. Always nice to see more.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 18, 2021 12:14:16 GMT
Since this is a Tele thread, I'm going to veer back on course. This is a partscaster I threw together in 2008. ...and here's a 59 Tele I restored for a friend from a heavily modified original What did you do to restore the '59?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 7:18:46 GMT
Since this is a Tele thread, I'm going to veer back on course. This is a partscaster I threw together in 2008. ...and here's a 59 Tele I restored for a friend from a heavily modified original What did you do to restore the '59? Ah, I thought you'd remember this one....This was a 50 Tele that came to me badly butchered. It had two humberes crudely routed into the body, a Gibson tune-o-matic bridge, and poorly aftermarket string-through holes with ferrules on the front and back, an elogated control cavity that had 4 - 500K pots (two tone, two volume) Armaco black knurled knobs with pennies glued in the centers, and a Les Paul three way switch. There was a fairly odd looking tortoiseshell pickguard and the control panels was like a longer Telly plate made of black/white/black pickguard material. The neck (hold on to your lunch!) had been scalloped by some mad scientist, and then when my buddy first acquired it, he tried to fill the scallops with marine epoxy, and refret it with Jumbo frets. It had been fitted with a set of those diagonal Fender tuners from the 70's that everybody hates. The body (which had several taypers of paint, mostly brushed on coats, and when it came to me the body and the face of the headstock had been painted in a bright, bright electric teal colour.
There were a lot of issues in restoring it...I had to get rid of the string-through holes (most '59's were top-loading bridges), fill the pickup and control routs, rerout them for Tele single coils and a regular 2 knob +pickup switch-style control plate control plate, and then grain-fill the body before it went for paint. To finish the story on the body, I test assembled it with a new black bakelite guard, a set of a Vintage-style Noiseless Tele pickups, a Fender bridge which had factory modified for top-loading strings, a set of three Wilkinson adjustable-pivot compensated saddles, Torres Engineering two-stage treble and midrange control, and a four way Tele pickup switch. When it was ready for paint, I stripped it back to bare wood, and the body went to the interior of BC to the guy who ran the body shop technology lab at an Okanagan university, to be painted by the guy who used to mastermind BASF's paint production division. It was to be painted pearlescent butterscoth blond with a special clear coat. It came back, months later, looking gorgeous, but it turned out he had surface sanded so much off the front and back that the parts wouldn't fir - all the routs had to be deepened. I built a special Tele-shaped cradle that was lined in red velvet to hold the body at exactly the right depth to compensate for the oversanded top, and rerouted it. Everything went fine....until I left a tiny ridge of material at the outside edge of the neck pocket, to be caewefully sliced off with an x-acto blade at the end. The clear coat was so brittle that it broke a big chip out of the body. It ended up going back to the same place to be stripped and repainted. The whole thing added a good two years to the build. The neck was another story..... My biddy didn't want to spend the 1000.00 he was being quoted to replace the fretboard. Ultimately, I took the brutalized scalloped 59 neck as part payment for the restoration, and I supplied him a TL-62 Fender Japan neck to replace it, fitted with a set of Wilkinson vintage tuners. I worked on that thing on and off for about five years. I set it up as well as I could, and then decided to have a pro do a setup which definitely made it even better. It plays nicely, and with the stealth mods - the four way switch that adds the series pickup position, the two-stage Torres Advanced Midrange tone control, the Noiselss pickups and the adjustable pivoting saddles - it plays better than any original 59 I've played (and I've owned and played three others).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 7:19:12 GMT
What did you do to restore the '59? Ah, I thought you'd remember this one....This was a 59 Tele that came to me badly butchered. It had two 70 Les Paul mini-humbuckers crudely routed into the body, a Gibson tune-o-matic bridge, and poorly done aftermarket string-through holes with ferrules on the front and back, an elogated control cavity that had 4 - 500K pots (two tone, two volume) Armaco black knurled knobs with pennies glued in the centers, and a Les Paul three way switch. There was a fairly odd looking tortoiseshell pickguard and the control panels was like a longer Telly plate made of black/white/black pickguard material. The neck (hold on to your lunch!) had been scalloped by some mad scientist, and then when my buddy first acquired it, he tried to fill the scallops with marine epoxy, and refret it with Jumbo frets. It had been fitted with a set of those diagonal Fender tuners from the 70's that everybody hates. The body (which had several taypers of paint, mostly brushed on coats, and when it came to me the body and the face of the headstock had been painted in a bright, bright electric teal colour.
There were a lot of issues in restoring it...I had to get rid of the string-through holes (most '59's were top-loading bridges), fill the pickup and control routs, rerout them for Tele single coils and a regular 2 knob +pickup switch-style control plate control plate, and then grain-fill the body before it went for paint. To finish the story on the body, I test assembled it with a new black bakelite guard, a set of a Vintage-style Noiseless Tele pickups, a Fender bridge which had factory modified for top-loading strings, a set of three Wilkinson adjustable-pivot compensated saddles, Torres Engineering two-stage treble and midrange control, and a four way Tele pickup switch. When it was ready for paint, I stripped it back to bare wood, and the body went to the interior of BC to the guy who ran the body shop technology lab at an Okanagan university, to be painted by the guy who used to mastermind BASF's paint production division. It was to be painted pearlescent butterscotch blond with a special clear coat. It came back, months later, looking gorgeous, but it turned out he had surface sanded so much off the front and back that the parts wouldn't fit- all the routs had to be deepened. I built a special Tele-shaped cradle that was lined in red velvet to hold the body at exactly the right depth to compensate for the oversanded top, and rerouted it. Everything went fine....until I left a tiny ridge of material at the outside edge of the neck pocket, to be carefully sliced off with an x-acto blade at the end. The clear coat was so brittle that it broke a big chip out of the body. It ended up going back to the same place to be stripped and repainted. The whole thing added a good two years to the build. The neck was another story..... My buddy didn't want to spend the 1000.00 he was being quoted to replace the fretboard. Ultimately, I took the brutalized scalloped 59 neck as part payment for the restoration, and I supplied him a TL-62 Fender Japan neck to replace it, fitted with a set of Wilkinson vintage tuners. I worked on that thing on and off for about five years. I set it up as well as I could, and then decided to have a pro do a setup which definitely made it even better. It plays nicely, and with the stealth mods - the four way switch that adds the series pickup position, the two-stage Torres Advanced Midrange tone control, the Noiselss pickups and the adjustable pivoting saddles - it plays better than any original 59 I've played (and I've owned and played three others).
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 19, 2021 12:18:12 GMT
That's a heck of a lot of work, but it looks great!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 5:05:41 GMT
Yeah, it turned out pretty nice. The thing I find ironic is that, ultimately, my buddy ended up with a new guitar built with a 1959 body. I was a lot happier with the guitar I built with the left-overs....My '59 partscaster Esquire ended up getting the original 59 neck that my buddy didn't want to pay to have fixed. I sent that neck to Mark from The Music Box in New Jersey, who's the best fret guy I know of anywhere. He planed the ruined scalloped fretboard off, added a new rosewood fretboard, new clay dots, new vintage frets, and did some small wood repairs before he blew in touch-ups to replace the finish on the front of the headstock, plus adding a new correct-vintage Fender logo. To my way of thinking, the guitar I built for me had more of a 1959 vintage personality than the one I did for my friend. This is my parts Esquire with the refurbished genuine 1959 neck
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Post by infant on Feb 20, 2021 13:38:12 GMT
Incredible work you did on that butchered ‘59. Can’t even tell that any work was done to it other than a refinish. I’m also loving that Esquire...great colour and the white pickguard just makes everything “pop”. Back in the ‘80s I had a local music store fit a humbucker between the two pickups on my ‘75 Tele. I think they drilled holes to weaken the wood and then chiseled out the remains. Quite a butcher job. Thank God it’s covered by the pickguard. When I was working, I thought of bringing it into the machine shop and having the machinist clean it up on the milling machine. But I was too lazy to take the guitar apart. However, I still have a couple of months before the place shuts down completely and seeing as I’m at home with nothing to do, maybe I should look into finally getting it done.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 20, 2021 13:44:22 GMT
Yeah, it turned out pretty nice. The thing I find ironic is that, ultimately, my buddy ended up with a new guitar built with a 1959 body. I was a lot happier with the guitar I built with the left-overs....My '59 partscaster Esquire ended up getting the original 59 neck that my buddy didn't want to pay to have fixed. I sent that neck to Mark from The Music Box in New Jersey, who's the best fret guy I know of anywhere. He planed the ruined scalloped fretboard off, added a new rosewood fretboard, new clay dots, new vintage frets, and did some small wood repairs before he blew in touch-ups to replace the finish on the front of the headstock, plus adding a new correct-vintage Fender logo. To my way of thinking, the guitar I built for me had more of a 1959 vintage personality than the one I did for my friend. This is my parts Esquire with the refurbished genuine 1959 neck Wow, stunning. I love the color!
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