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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 18, 2020 13:03:33 GMT
Although I do have one humbucker with a coil tap that sounds wonderful in single coil mode So why don't we see single coils you can turn into humbuckers? Yeah--I know, I know. You can have hum cancelling with two single coils used together, but I know the actual answer. That would really be something!
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 18, 2020 13:19:40 GMT
Although I do have one humbucker with a coil tap that sounds wonderful in single coil mode One of the complaints I'm seeing more often these days is guys dissatisfied with the way their humbucker sounds when it's split....saying the single coils sound is wimpy. Bear in mind that mine is being used with a carbon Fibre archtop, not a solid body so the gain is going to be much higher no matter what.
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Post by zontar on Dec 19, 2020 8:24:50 GMT
HAs anybody tried the gold foil pickups? Either vintage ones-or newer updated/upgraded ones (& not just regular pickups dressed up as gold foils--those exit as well)
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 19, 2020 15:54:12 GMT
HAs anybody tried the gold foil pickups? Either vintage ones-or newer updated/upgraded ones (& not just regular pickups dressed up as gold foils--those exit as well) I never tried them...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 18:49:01 GMT
HAs anybody tried the gold foil pickups? Either vintage ones-or newer updated/upgraded ones (& not just regular pickups dressed up as gold foils--those exit as well) Some of the best information I've seen on the old gold-foil Japanese pickups came from Mike Reilander when he was active on AxeTalk. I particularly recall him talking about the oldies having those very flat refrigerator magnets that gave them such a flat profile. I was left with the impression that the proportions and profile were responsible for the unique sound characteristics and that modern gold foil-appearing pickups wouldn't necessarily sound the same because the basic materials would be different.
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Post by zontar on Dec 19, 2020 23:07:57 GMT
HAs anybody tried the gold foil pickups? Either vintage ones-or newer updated/upgraded ones (& not just regular pickups dressed up as gold foils--those exit as well) Some of the best information I've seen on the old gold-foil Japanese pickups came from Mike Reilander when he was active on AxeTalk. I particularly recall him talking about the oldies having those very flat refrigerator magnets that gave them such a flat profile. I was left with the impression that the proportions and profile were responsible for the unique sound characteristics and that modern gold foil-appearing pickups wouldn't necessarily sound the same because the basic materials would be different. Certainly that is true for amps, effects, etc. And one reason why older stuff sometimes goes crazy price wise--even if there isn't a good reason for it. Most of the guitars that had the old gold foil pickups weren't worth much until there was a demand for the pickups. Just wondering though if anybody here had ever tried them I know other cheap old guitars I've played with other pickups are not ones I like--btu if people ever get reattached to those sounds--those old pickups will go up in price--as well s guitars that have them. (Especially if they are original to the guitar) Sometimes the newer versions--while different are actually better, but because of the nostalgia factor they aren't was well received.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2020 0:16:53 GMT
My one experience with old gold foils was in my first guitar, my single pickup Zenon. While I never realized there was anything special about it when I was young, when I bought my first guitar back a few years ago, I was quite impressed with the pickup. I've posted a picture that's from the eBay ad where I relocated my first guitar, and you can see the style of pickup. There were at least two or three Zenon models that used that style. One of the most famous people to use a Zenon guitar was Zal Yanovsky, the lead guitar player for the Lovin' Spoonful. When you listen to cuts like "Do You Believe In Magic", you can hear what a fine pickup Zenon was building at the time. i.vgy.me/yIKP5k.jpg
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 20, 2020 1:16:50 GMT
Funny you should mention the lovin spoonful. I was just listening to what a day for a daydream today
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2020 1:28:29 GMT
Funny you should mention the lovin spoonful. I was just listening to what a day for a daydream today Lovin' Spoonful is a band with some interesting history. I was always fascinated by Zal Yanovsky because he was a Canadian. The stories about his firing from the Spoonful are illuminating. What's really cool is that the band still exists, although in a much changed form from the original lineup. John Sebastion is gone of course, and the original drummer, Joe Butler is now the lead guitarist and main singer.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 20, 2020 3:09:09 GMT
It is amazing to see bands that can stick around 50+ years...
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Post by zontar on Dec 20, 2020 5:15:51 GMT
Well if the cheap pickups that came in my LP copy ever get popular I have a set I could sell. I have the Duncans in there, as I've already mentioned.
But if I got a good price for them--I'd sell the pickups.
On the other hand, I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 20, 2020 15:21:33 GMT
Well if the cheap pickups that came in my LP copy ever get popular I have a set I could sell. I have the Duncans in there, as I've already mentioned. But if I got a good price for them--I'd sell the pickups. On the other hand, I'm not holding my breath. Is that the guitar with the mismatched pickup colours? I think one was orange?
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Post by zontar on Dec 20, 2020 23:15:04 GMT
Well if the cheap pickups that came in my LP copy ever get popular I have a set I could sell. I have the Duncans in there, as I've already mentioned. But if I got a good price for them--I'd sell the pickups. On the other hand, I'm not holding my breath. Is that the guitar with the mismatched pickup colours? I think one was orange? It's dark pink. looks red from some angles--but yeah, same guitar. This is what it looked like when I got it: the pink pickup is a Seymour Duncan JB. I knew I wanted new pickups but didn't want to spend a lot--after some research I decided on Kent Armstrong pickups & went to store I knew carried them. they didn't have the pickups I was looking torso they offered to order them While the salesman was checking that out I saw the Pink JB and asked about it. Since you can order customs colour bobbins for many SD pickups someone had ordered the pink JB from them, but backed out from buying it They eat lowering the price & nobody bought it. Since it was the now the same price as the Kent Armstrong pickup I decided to buy it. If I didn't like the look I could always get a cover--but I like it--so no cover. The other pickup is a Seymour Duncan P=Rail--which I also got a good price on. At a different store I was checking out pickups, but wanted a 4 conductor one so I could wire it series/parallel and/or coil split it. Then I saw the P-Rail, asked boat it and they knocked down the price to match the others I was considering. The JB is wired for series/parallel/split and the P-Rail for P-90/Rail/humbucker
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Post by zontar on Dec 20, 2020 23:56:56 GMT
And yes, that P-Rail is actually a bridge one--at the time I didn't know that--and it was the only one they had But it works great & sounds great where it is. And if I got a P-rail to put in another guitar I think I'd do it the same way
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 21, 2020 1:17:12 GMT
Ah yes I remember that one!
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Post by zontar on Dec 21, 2020 2:25:16 GMT
So anybody else ever try P-Rails?
I love it.
the P-90 sound has nice growl to it--btu can also be smooth. The Rail sound is nice & clear--and if played with the bridge pickup split-is a bit Fender-ish. And the Humbucker sound is greta for chugging rhythms, as well as filling the sound out.
Part of me wants a P-Rail in another guitar as well. Having one for standard tuning & the other for open G & slide.
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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 6:42:31 GMT
Or P-90s?
I considered a humbucker sized P-90, but when I got that great deal on a P-Rail--I went for that.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 22, 2020 14:47:36 GMT
I use P-90's often, or pickups similar to P-90's
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Post by zontar on Dec 23, 2020 2:43:32 GMT
I use P-90's often, or pickups similar to P-90's Ain't nothing like a P-90. But I do like the P-rail--because it gets me that sound, and the hum bucker sound I like and a Rail/Strat type one as well. Although I'd say I sue the P-90 setting about 2/3s of the time-at least--and the hum bucker the most after that. But I like the rail when used with the split bridge humbucker.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 23, 2020 3:02:56 GMT
I use P-90's often, or pickups similar to P-90's Ain't nothing like a P-90. Said like a true new jerseyan
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Post by zontar on Dec 23, 2020 6:15:59 GMT
Ain't nothing like a P-90. Said like a true new jersey I've never bent Jersey. I've been in 5 US states.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 23, 2020 15:17:06 GMT
I'm not sure where you are but I expect you are at least 2000 miles away from me, if not more
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 8:11:06 GMT
I'm not sure where you are but I expect you are at least 2000 miles away from me, if not more Most of the way across the continent --and much closer to Spell...
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 8:23:48 GMT
Ever tried Alumitone pickups? They sound good, but they're lighter & do some different things.
I don't own any guitars with them, but I've played them.
They can make a guitar feel lighter.
Here's a video explaining them.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 24, 2020 15:12:48 GMT
I'm not sure where you are but I expect you are at least 2000 miles away from me, if not more Most of the way across the continent --and much closer to Spell... Yeah I figured
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Post by Bill h on Dec 24, 2020 18:15:52 GMT
All the p-90 talk has me thinking of dragging out the lp special next practice.
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 19:24:00 GMT
All the p-90 talk has me thinking of dragging out the lp special next practice. Do it (And if I did get Alumitones I would consider their P90 version
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 24, 2020 20:01:18 GMT
All the p-90 talk has me thinking of dragging out the lp special next practice. Do it (And if I did get Alumitones I would consider their P90 version +1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 5:34:52 GMT
One of my favourite pickups of all time is the vintage-style Rickenbacker Toasters for guitar. Not those inexpensive Toaster look-a-likes that appeared to be the real thing but sounded like pooh, but real Rickenbackers. A while ago, I resolved to build a guitar with those pickups in mind. I put together a Telecaster and ordered a pair of Rickenbacker Toasters. When they came in, I was in a bit of a quandry....It was obvious that they were made for a guitar that was designed for surface-mount pickups, which would have made them well-suited to thinline archtop-design guitars, but not so good in a lot of solid-body flat-top guitars like Telecasters and Strats. I decided to try to mount them underneath and try to raise them as high as possible. What I discovered is that by the time the pickup was mounted underneath and projecting through a pickguard or a bridge plate,even when it was cranked up as high as it would go, the pickup wasn't close enough to the string to produce a really focused articulate sound.That prevented the pickup from getting into that sweet spot that let the Ricky pickups produce the chime or jangle that made them sound special. I played around trying to solve the mounting position problem for a while, but in the end, it seemed pointless to me to have 400.00 worth of pickups that were always going to be compromised by the mounting position. I sold them and resolved that if I ever ended up with a thinline archtop like a Casino or ES335, they'd be worth another look.
In the end, when I took the Toasters out and sold them, the same guitar sounded better with a 40.00 pair of cheaper humbucker-sized P90's
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Post by zontar on Dec 27, 2020 9:07:00 GMT
In the end, when I took the Toasters out and sold them, the same guitar sounded better with a 40.00 pair of cheaper humbucker-sized P90's
It works that way sometimes--and no way to know without trying it--although you can sometimes get an inkling.
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