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Post by Maxwell on Jan 2, 2016 21:14:07 GMT
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Post by Grand Toad on Jan 2, 2016 22:52:29 GMT
The Rewind pups I have in my Lester are at about 8.5. Best $120.00 upgrade for that guitar. The Burstbuckers were to shrill sounding.
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Post by Grand Toad on Jan 3, 2016 0:57:10 GMT
Those Rewinds are $300.00 a set now.
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Post by Grand Toad on Jan 3, 2016 0:57:51 GMT
Anybody want to buy some Busrtbuckers?
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Post by Grand Toad on Jan 3, 2016 1:01:52 GMT
I have a fake ass Bumb Bee capacitor as well. I opened up the other one. It was a cheap cap encased in plastic to look like a Bumble Bee. Imagine that a five grand guitar with fake caps.
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Post by Maxwell on Jan 3, 2016 1:12:04 GMT
Don't get me started on capacitor bulltish....
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Post by Grand Toad on Jan 3, 2016 1:47:09 GMT
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Post by Colchar on Jan 3, 2016 18:23:49 GMT
When I change pickups I always go for a more vintage sound than a hotter sound.
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Post by Colchar on Jan 3, 2016 18:24:25 GMT
I have a fake ass Bumb Bee capacitor as well. I opened up the other one. It was a cheap cap encased in plastic to look like a Bumble Bee. Imagine that a five grand guitar with fake caps. Yeah that has been revealed on a couple of forums.
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Post by Colchar on Jan 3, 2016 18:24:45 GMT
Anybody want to buy some Busrtbuckers? Which model?
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Post by Grand Toad on Jan 3, 2016 18:27:08 GMT
2 and 3. $120.00 for both.
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Post by stonedcrow on Apr 1, 2016 13:51:35 GMT
The Rewind pups I have in my Lester are at about 8.5. Best $120.00 upgrade for that guitar. The Burstbuckers were to shrill sounding. Wow, just wow, I could never use anything that low, my bridge pickup on my work Les Paul measures 28.5KΩ and the neck pickup measures 25KΩ, and I honestly don't consider my pickups to be hot, or high outputs, my work strats have the same 28.5KΩ in the bridge position it's the same bridge pickup that I use in my work Les Pauls, a 21.5KΩ single coil in the middle position, and a 18KΩ in the neck position, my work strats have been modified to be H.S.S. These are all the measured output that are written in the manual Bare Knuckle Pickups provide with their pickups, Bare Knuckle Pickups measure the output of every pickup that they, make and write it on the manual that they provide with the pickup in the packaging. Unless you are wanting super glassy cleans, I honestly don't see how you can use pickups with an 8.5KΩ output, I know I couldn't use them, I would have to really really push my amps with boost pedals and over drive pedals, probably multiples of each to make up for the lack of output from your pickups to get my sound.
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Post by Marshall 'n' Moonshine on Apr 1, 2016 18:49:49 GMT
I've got ECP RD-59 hybrids in mine, and they're 7-8k-ish. They fixed that thing right up for what I do. I use clean tones all the time, except when I don't. But I can roll up for dirt and fuzz on for more. I love the low-outputs, but they're not for everyone.
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Post by Sinster on Apr 1, 2016 21:53:50 GMT
I wind my own pickups so I can wind to whatever I'm happy with. Whether it's hot, vintage, potted, non-potted, Alnico, or ceramic magnet. I do have hot pickup that I really like in my SG mule guitar.
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Post by Grand Toad on Apr 2, 2016 2:50:50 GMT
The Rewind pups I have in my Lester are at about 8.5. Best $120.00 upgrade for that guitar. The Burstbuckers were to shrill sounding. Wow, just wow, I could never use anything that low, my bridge pickup on my work Les Paul measures 28.5KΩ and the neck pickup measures 25KΩ, and I honestly don't consider my pickups to be hot, or high outputs, my work strats have the same 28.5KΩ in the bridge position it's the same bridge pickup that I use in my work Les Pauls, a 21.5KΩ single coil in the middle position, and a 18KΩ in the neck position, my work strats have been modified to be H.S.S. These are all the measured output that are written in the manual Bare Knuckle Pickups provide with their pickups, Bare Knuckle Pickups measure the output of every pickup that they, make and write it on the manual that they provide with the pickup in the packaging. Unless you are wanting super glassy cleans, I honestly don't see how you can use pickups with an 8.5KΩ output, I know I couldn't use them, I would have to really really push my amps with boost pedals and over drive pedals, probably multiples of each to make up for the lack of output from your pickups to get my sound. Rewind Crème Brûlée pickups at 8.5k for the neck, and 8.7k for the bridge. James custom wound them, after several discussions about what I want. He hit it out of the park. Crystal clear clean, can get nice and dirty if I need it. I don't need monster gain coming from the pickups. Push the power tubes. I also am an avid pedal junkie, so I can push the amp with distortion - MXR Custom Bad Ass '78 Distortion, or Pigtronix Polysaturator. I can't imagine 28k pickups. Do they screech like a banshee? I'm just not a fan of that kind of output. Dickey Betts' goldtop had 7k pickups. And, to me that was wonderful tone. Now on the other hand Duane's darkburst had about 9k pickups pushing 50 watt Marshalls.
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Post by stonedcrow on Apr 2, 2016 13:27:56 GMT
Wow, just wow, I could never use anything that low, my bridge pickup on my work Les Paul measures 28.5KΩ and the neck pickup measures 25KΩ, and I honestly don't consider my pickups to be hot, or high outputs, my work strats have the same 28.5KΩ in the bridge position it's the same bridge pickup that I use in my work Les Pauls, a 21.5KΩ single coil in the middle position, and a 18KΩ in the neck position, my work strats have been modified to be H.S.S. These are all the measured output that are written in the manual Bare Knuckle Pickups provide with their pickups, Bare Knuckle Pickups measure the output of every pickup that they, make and write it on the manual that they provide with the pickup in the packaging. Unless you are wanting super glassy cleans, I honestly don't see how you can use pickups with an 8.5KΩ output, I know I couldn't use them, I would have to really really push my amps with boost pedals and over drive pedals, probably multiples of each to make up for the lack of output from your pickups to get my sound. Rewind Crème Brûlée pickups at 8.5k for the neck, and 8.7k for the bridge. James custom wound them, after several discussions about what I want. He hit it out of the park. Crystal clear clean, can get nice and dirty if I need it. I don't need monster gain coming from the pickups. Push the power tubes. I also am an avid pedal junkie, so I can push the amp with distortion - MXR Custom Bad Ass '78 Distortion, or Pigtronix Polysaturator. I can't imagine 28k pickups. Do they screech like a banshee? I'm just not a fan of that kind of output. Dickey Betts' goldtop had 7k pickups. And, to me that was wonderful tone. Now on the other hand Duane's darkburst had about 9k pickups pushing 50 watt Marshalls. They don't sound shrill, screech, or squeal in the slightest, in fact I would describe them as very heavy, meaty, and ballsy, they don't sound thin in the least bit, in fact they emphasis the bass, low end and mid range of the tone spectrum of the guitar, they make Tony Iommi's signature pickups sound thin and weak. Tim from Bare Knuckle Pickups would describe my pickups as sounding almost like the Alnico version of their Warpigs but bigger, beefier, and meatier : bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=humbuckers&sub=contemporary&pickup=warpig
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 0:28:21 GMT
When Mike Reilander wound the triple-tap bridge pickup for my 59 Esquire partscaster, he carefully chose taps that would recreate a low output vintage sound that was sweet, a more contemporary, focused tone, and an over-wound monster sound that snarled. The three taps were switched on the Esquire using the three position Tele pickup switch. I tended to prefer the lower output vintage sound the best. i.vgy.me/keJZjX.jpg
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 8, 2020 0:37:13 GMT
When Mike Reilander wound the triple-tap bridge pickup for my 59 Esquire partscaster, he carefully chose taps that would recreate a low output vintage sound that was sweet, a more contemporary, focused tone, and an over-wound monster sound that snarled. The three taps were switched on the Esquire using the three position Tele pickup switch. I tended to prefer the lower output vintage sound the best. i.vgy.me/keJZjX.jpgI also prefer lower output pickups. I've had handwounds done by quite a few guys and too hot does not give me what I need. Also with archtops the output is naturally much higher than solid body because they are so resonant. So too hot a pickup would be a big mistake with a lot of unwanted feedback- and i don't mean Jimi Hendrix feedback either... My archtops' volume controls are set way lower than my Strat. My strat volume is usually @9. One of my guilds is around 2. Another archtop is around 6. I think my other guild is at 7 master volume and the pickup volume is like 3
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Post by Sinster on Dec 8, 2020 16:02:44 GMT
Always wanted to try Reilander's. I should have purchased some ReWinds when he first started, but at that point I already started winding my own. I also have to thank David of sigilpickups.ca/ for helping me out when I first started to wind. He just started to wind as well and gave me a lot of guidance. FWIW DCR doesn't really give the output of a pickup. The DCR changes with temperature.
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Post by zontar on Dec 9, 2020 10:10:32 GMT
I have hotter pickup & less hot ones as well.
I have replaced pickups on 2 guitars--in both cases went with Seymour Duncans--one set has ceramic agents, the other has Alnico
SO different things for different sounds & songs.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 16, 2020 17:14:00 GMT
I'm generally not a fan or humbuckers, which puts me in the minority, especially for playing hollowbodies
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Post by zontar on Dec 17, 2020 7:59:02 GMT
Minority or majority--it's all good--you have your own sound.
I prefer humbuckers overall--but I love my Mustang--and my Les Paul copy has could splitting on both pickups (Seymour Duncan JB in the bridge is wired series/paralle/single and a Seymour Duncan P-Rail int he neck-wired ofr P-90, Rail single coil or humbucker)
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 17, 2020 13:49:25 GMT
Although I do have one humbucker with a coil tap that sounds wonderful in single coil mode
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 0:54:34 GMT
I find I'm interested in the new Wide Range pickup that Fender's started producing. This is not that sheep-in-wolf's-clothing imitation they've made in recent years that was actually a common-place humbucker hiding under a Wide Range cover. The new one actually uses the Cunife magnet structure, so it bears a strong resemblance to the acclaimed Wide Range pickup that appeared in the early 70's Telecasters. It's not cheap...I hear around 200.00 will buy one in the US - 279.00 in Canada, but that's still a bargain compared to what some of the vintage 70's ones are being sold at. www.solomusicgear.com/product/fender-cunife-wide-range-humbucker-bridge-pickup/
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Post by infant on Dec 18, 2020 1:20:34 GMT
Ken, I have a ‘72 Thinline RI and a few years ago, there was a guy named Telenator on the TDPRI that got his hands on some CUNIFE rod and started making WRHB pickups. He designed bobbins like the original, threaded the CUNIFE rods and used the same wire for the winding. If you wanted a set I believe they were about $400 US each and he needed your RI pickups so that he could fit his bobbins into the Fender covers. He got great reviews and sold out. He also had two other cheaper options that used the RI pickups and changed the magnet types. I contemplated getting one of his cheaper options as I found the guitar a bit muddy but then i just changed the pots on the guitar to 500K ohm from the original 250K ohm and the guitar just opened up. It may not sound like a WRHB but it kicks ass and has become my #1 guitar. Considering I paid $700 for the guitar when I bought it, I can’t see spending $600 on new pickups that may or may not improve the sound to my ears.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 2:40:12 GMT
Ken, I have a ‘72 Thinline RI and a few years ago, there was a guy named Telenator on the TDPRI that got his hands on some CUNIFE rod and started making WRHB pickups. He designed bobbins like the original, threaded the CUNIFE rods and used the same wire for the winding. If you wanted a set I believe they were about $400 US each and he needed your RI pickups so that he could fit his bobbins into the Fender covers. He got great reviews and sold out. He also had two other cheaper options that used the RI pickups and changed the magnet types. I contemplated getting one of his cheaper options as I found the guitar a bit muddy but then i just changed the pots on the guitar to 500K ohm from the original 250K ohm and the guitar just opened up. It may not sound like a WRHB but it kicks ass and has become my #1 guitar. Considering I paid $700 for the guitar when I bought it, I can’t see spending $600 on new pickups that may or may not improve the sound to my ears. I've read about the Telenator pickups and before I heard about the newest Fender effort, they were on my wishlist. There's also someone in England doing a reproduction Wide Range pickup - I think the brand name is Creamery. The new Fender pickups are definitely the best priced of the true CuNife designs. One thing I've heard, and I don't know how much of an influence it has is that the Telenators and Creamery's actually use threaded CuNife rods, whereas the Fender version uses a CuNife magnet in a more conventional format rather than the screws actually being the rare-earth magnet.
As far as the original 72's with the original Wide Range pickups go, I think I remember reading that Fender was supplying the guitars with 1 Meg pots. They were pretty bright and conversion to 500 ohm pots was a common modification. Your change from 250's to 500's would stand to reason because very few humbuckers sound bright enough with 250 pots.
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Post by zontar on Dec 18, 2020 4:48:28 GMT
Although I do have one humbucker with a coil tap that sounds wonderful in single coil mode So why don't we see single coils you can turn into humbuckers? Yeah--I know, I know. You can have hum cancelling with two single coils used together, but I know the actual answer.
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Post by zontar on Dec 18, 2020 4:51:50 GMT
I find I'm interested in the new Wide Range pickup that Fender's started producing. This is not that sheep-in-wolf's-clothing imitation they've made in recent years that was actually a common-place humbucker hiding under a Wide Range cover. The new one actually uses the Cunife magnet structure, so it bears a strong resemblance to the acclaimed Wide Range pickup that appeared in the early 70's Telecasters. It's not cheap...I hear around 200.00 will buy one in the US - 279.00 in Canada, but that's still a bargain compared to what some of the vintage 70's ones are being sold at. www.solomusicgear.com/product/fender-cunife-wide-range-humbucker-bridge-pickup/I'd like to try them myself--although at that price I probably can't. There are other companies making them as well--maybe they'd be the same, maybe better, maybe worse--but it would be fun to try them out
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 5:51:32 GMT
Although I do have one humbucker with a coil tap that sounds wonderful in single coil mode One of the complaints I'm seeing more often these days is guys dissatisfied with the way their humbucker sounds when it's split....saying the single coils sound is wimpy. The best thing I've seen to deal with it, if you're not happy as dB is with the single coil sound, is to use humbuckers that are asymmetrically wound. Some humbuckers, such as the Lindy Fralin Unbucker I had in my red Strat are wound with two coils that are quite different - one heavily wound coil and one underwound coil. Because they're still wound in reverse, they still offer the noise-cancelling properties of a humbucker, but when the coil split is activated, the active coil is the more heavily wound one, and the lesser wound coil is the one shunted to ground. The active coil still has enough winds to satisfied most guys' taste for a single coil pickup. The Fralin Unbucker was wonderful in that regard.
The other approach to dealing with a single coil not sounding great on it's own is to use a pot as a variable coil split...What Peavey used to call a Spin-a-split, where the amount of signal from the second coil is being variably shunted to ground. That way you can dial in just a bit of the second coil, for a sound that's basically single coil in nature, but has just a little more meat on it from that second coil. When I was building a Strat and using a humbucker, I'd quite often utilize the second tone pot as a spin-a-split to get that fine-tuning capability for the humbucker.
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Post by zontar on Dec 18, 2020 6:08:08 GMT
Although I do have one humbucker with a coil tap that sounds wonderful in single coil mode One of the complaints I'm seeing more often these days is guys dissatisfied with the way their humbucker sounds when it's split....saying the single coils sound is wimpy. The best thing I've seen to deal with it, if you're not happy as dB is with the single coil sound, is to use humbuckers that are asymmetrically wound. Some humbuckers, such as the Lindy Fralin Unbucker I had in my red Strat are wound with two coils that are quite different - one heavily wound coil and one underwound coil. Because they're still wound in reverse, they still offer the noise-cancelling properties of a humbucker, but when the coil split is activated, the active coil is the more heavily wound one, and the lesser wound coil is the one shunted to ground. The active coil still has enough winds to satisfied most guys' taste for a single coil pickup. The Fralin Unbucker was wonderful in that regard.
The other approach to dealing with a single coil not sounding great on it's own is to use a pot as a variable coil split...What Peavey used to call a Spin-a-split, where the amount of signal from the second coil is being variably shunted to ground. That way you can dial in just a bit of the second coil, for a sound that's basically single coil in nature, but has just a little more meat on it from that second coil. When I was building a Strat and using a humbucker, I'd quite often utilize the second tone pot as a spin-a-split to get that fine-tuning capability for the humbucker.
Another pickup that does something similar (& different) is the Seymour Duncan P-Rail It's a combination of their Vintage P-90 & Hot Rails single coil pickups into a humbucker. You can split it to just the P-90 or the Hot Rail--and all three sound great--I use all three settings. The coils are definitely not symmetrical. (And I have played Peavey T-60s with that spin a split idea. it did work--not sure why more people haven't used it.)
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