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Post by infant on Dec 27, 2020 20:12:40 GMT
He hit you with the slide??? I Suspect the guy was either just a bad player or the keys were tripping him up. Sharp keys are about as beloved to horn players as flat keys are to guitar players Yes, but to be fair to him, it was a crowded floor area. I kept trying to get out of his way, but I think he was following me I hate playing on a crowded stage. I have downsized my gear to the point where the next amp smaller than what I currently use would be a Champ or direct into the PA. I’ve been trying to talk the other guys into downsizing but they refuse. I already told you that they are tightwads. Our drummer has a huge kit with roto-toms, dual floor toms and 7 cymbals. Our Keyboard player bought a new 88key Roland keyboard a couple of years ago and still uses a huge Peavey K300(?) to amplify it. We play at one Legion where the two of them take up about 70% of the stage and the other 3 of us are left to stand and play in an area of about 9ft (3m) x 4ft (1.3m). I have one of the drummers cymbals right behind my left elbow and the keyboard player, who is turned facing us, has his microphone boom in my right hip. My amp and PA mixer are behind me, right up my @$$! The last time we played there, the bass player and I decided to stand on the floor as the stage is only about 1.5 ft above the floor. We were joined by the sax player after the 1st set. It was much more comfortable. Recently, in order to make some extra room for indoor dining during COVID, I noticed that they have actually removed the stage. Now we can take up as much room as needed...until we run into dining tables or dance floor.
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Post by zontar on Dec 27, 2020 23:36:45 GMT
Yes, but to be fair to him, it was a crowded floor area. I kept trying to get out of his way, but I think he was following me I hate playing on a crowded stage. I have downsized my gear to the point where the next amp smaller than what I currently use would be a Champ or direct into the PA. I’ve been trying to talk the other guys into downsizing but they refuse. I already told you that they are tightwads. Our drummer has a huge kit with roto-toms, dual floor toms and 7 cymbals. Our Keyboard player bought a new 88key Roland keyboard a couple of years ago and still uses a huge Peavey K300(?) to amplify it. We play at one Legion where the two of them take up about 70% of the stage and the other 3 of us are left to stand and play in an area of about 9ft (3m) x 4ft (1.3m). I have one of the drummers cymbals right behind my left elbow and the keyboard player, who is turned facing us, has his microphone boom in my right hip. My amp and PA mixer are behind me, right up my @$$! The last time we played there, the bass player and I decided to stand on the floor as the stage is only about 1.5 ft above the floor. We were joined by the sax player after the 1st set. It was much more comfortable. Recently, in order to make some extra room for indoor dining during COVID, I noticed that they have actually removed the stage. Now we can take up as much room as needed...until we run into dining tables or dance floor. I love a big drum set, but sometimes you need to downsize. the visuals may be great but he needs to learn to play with less, and should be able to do so. That would make a huge difference. here's someone who did more with a high hat than many drummer do with a huge set:
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Post by zontar on Dec 27, 2020 23:37:47 GMT
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 27, 2020 23:42:01 GMT
Yes, but to be fair to him, it was a crowded floor area. I kept trying to get out of his way, but I think he was following me I hate playing on a crowded stage. I have downsized my gear to the point where the next amp smaller than what I currently use would be a Champ or direct into the PA. I’ve been trying to talk the other guys into downsizing but they refuse. I already told you that they are tightwads. Our drummer has a huge kit with roto-toms, dual floor toms and 7 cymbals. Our Keyboard player bought a new 88key Roland keyboard a couple of years ago and still uses a huge Peavey K300(?) to amplify it. We play at one Legion where the two of them take up about 70% of the stage and the other 3 of us are left to stand and play in an area of about 9ft (3m) x 4ft (1.3m). I have one of the drummers cymbals right behind my left elbow and the keyboard player, who is turned facing us, has his microphone boom in my right hip. My amp and PA mixer are behind me, right up my @$$! The last time we played there, the bass player and I decided to stand on the floor as the stage is only about 1.5 ft above the floor. We were joined by the sax player after the 1st set. It was much more comfortable. Recently, in order to make some extra room for indoor dining during COVID, I noticed that they have actually removed the stage. Now we can take up as much room as needed...until we run into dining tables or dance floor. One of the best drummers I play with doesn't even bring a high hat because they weren't invented prior to the 20's. The first time he showed up like that I turned up my nose until he started actually playing. Guy plays with a snare, bass and a Tom with temple blocks and cowbell with only a crash and splash- great!
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Post by zontar on Dec 28, 2020 1:00:24 GMT
it's not so much what gear you have, but what you do with it--and if space is a limitation-consider that as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2020 1:18:01 GMT
it's not so much what gear you have, but what you do with it........... That's what the girls will tell you, lol.
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Post by zontar on Dec 28, 2020 1:19:57 GMT
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Post by zontar on Dec 28, 2020 1:20:42 GMT
it's not so much what gear you have, but what you do with it........... That's what the girls will tell you, lol. What are you Steve Carell?
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Post by zontar on Dec 28, 2020 1:26:41 GMT
I posted this elsewhere, but thought it belongs here as well
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 28, 2020 22:59:53 GMT
I posted this elsewhere, but thought it belongs here as well If trombones only had strings...
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Post by zontar on Dec 29, 2020 0:48:12 GMT
I posted this elsewhere, but thought it belongs here as well If trombones only had strings... They wouldn't be trombones then
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 29, 2020 0:58:22 GMT
If trombones only had strings... They wouldn't be trombones then Perhaps you invent one?
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Post by zontar on Dec 29, 2020 1:02:50 GMT
One thing I tend not to do is drink
I used to drink more, but I've lost a taste for it. I will still have a beer here & there to be sociable--but that's maybe twice a year at most. And I haven't had any alcohol (Well the drinking type) since the pandemic started.
But even when I did drink if I was playing--I played--and might dink after. If I was drinking, I drank.
Even if I don't feel impaired it affects my playing negatively.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 29, 2020 1:11:43 GMT
One thing I tend not to do is drink I used to drink more, but I've lost a taste for it. I will still have a beer here & there to be sociable--but that's maybe twice a year at most. And I haven't had any alcohol (Well the drinking type) since the pandemic started. But even when I did drink if I was playing--I played--and might dink after. If I was drinking, I drank. Even if I don't feel impaired it affects my playing negatively. Actually that is a hard rule for me, no drinking anything alcoholic before a gig at all. Even if it is a backyard party at my house. And I will go further. When places offer the band beer after a gig I usually give the band members a hard time. I like to keep a clean image
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Post by zontar on Dec 29, 2020 2:41:13 GMT
One thing I tend not to do is drink I used to drink more, but I've lost a taste for it. I will still have a beer here & there to be sociable--but that's maybe twice a year at most. And I haven't had any alcohol (Well the drinking type) since the pandemic started. But even when I did drink if I was playing--I played--and might dink after. If I was drinking, I drank. Even if I don't feel impaired it affects my playing negatively. Actually that is a hard rule for me, no drinking anything alcoholic before a gig at all. Even if it is a backyard party at my house. And I will go further. When places offer the band beer after a gig I usually give the band members a hard time. I like to keep a clean image Just a personal thing for me as I know it affects my playing--and anything that does that negatively is something I avoid. I remember one time getting together to rehearse an ad hoc band for farewell party and someone brought beer--one was given to me, and opened--after we practiced people saw what wa left--I was like--hey--I wa splaying & forgot about it Which is true--but I wouldn't have it during rehearsal--I did have some after. I don't judge others about it in jam situation etc--unless they become ugly drunks. In a band situation--yeah that would be different.
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Post by infant on Dec 29, 2020 5:08:52 GMT
I usually drink a lot of water up on stage but if it's a warm night and I get thirsty, I might have a beer between one of the sets.
I'm not much of a drinker anymore. I may have a couple of beers in the summer and usually drink scotch in the winter. I don't normally drink anything at home unless someone is visiting. We will have wine maybe once a week or two with a special dinner but even that is a little rare these days.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 29, 2020 14:58:05 GMT
The problem I have is the trombone player tends to be very eager in an uncomfortable way. I don't think he even really drinks all that much but the guy is loud when a beer is offered to him and it is very embarrassing to me.
"OH A BEER FOR ME? THANK YOU- CAN I HAVE ANOTHER ONE SO I DON'T HAVE TO BOTHER YOU AGAIN!!!"
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Post by zontar on Jan 1, 2021 22:16:26 GMT
SO anybody here the kind of person that is always showing up to jam or rehearse & needs to borrow a pick or cable or a strap, etc?
If it happens here & there, okay. I have had to at times, but not very often, and I can't remember the last time I asked.
But others have & I have lost straps & cables because of it. I'm probably not too worried about the picks as I would only lend out ones I'm okay with losing. If it happens all the time, that's a problem.
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Post by johnreardon on Jan 2, 2021 10:13:16 GMT
SO anybody here the kind of person that is always showing up to jam or rehearse & needs to borrow a pick or cable or a strap, etc? If it happens here & there, okay. I have had to at times, but not very often, and I can't remember the last time I asked. But others have & I have lost straps & cables because of it. I'm probably not too worried about the picks as I would only lend out ones I'm okay with losing. If it happens all the time, that's a problem. Never. I'm paranoid at having spares of almost everything. With picks & straps, I'm the one who lends them out to others.
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Post by zontar on Jan 2, 2021 10:23:44 GMT
SO anybody here the kind of person that is always showing up to jam or rehearse & needs to borrow a pick or cable or a strap, etc? If it happens here & there, okay. I have had to at times, but not very often, and I can't remember the last time I asked. But others have & I have lost straps & cables because of it. I'm probably not too worried about the picks as I would only lend out ones I'm okay with losing. If it happens all the time, that's a problem. Never. I'm paranoid at having spares of almost everything. With picks & straps, I'm the one who lends them out to others. And how often do the straps walk off, and not come back?
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Post by johnreardon on Jan 2, 2021 10:27:14 GMT
Never. I'm paranoid at having spares of almost everything. With picks & straps, I'm the one who lends them out to others. And how often do the straps walk off, and not come back? Been lucky with straps, people always give them back at jams. In our band, I got so fed up of the bass player asking to borrow a strap, I gave it to him. A couple of gigs later he asked to borrow a strap again
I couldn't shout at him however, as we have been friends since we were around 11 and started our first band together.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 2, 2021 14:08:35 GMT
SO anybody here the kind of person that is always showing up to jam or rehearse & needs to borrow a pick or cable or a strap, etc? If it happens here & there, okay. I have had to at times, but not very often, and I can't remember the last time I asked. But others have & I have lost straps & cables because of it. I'm probably not too worried about the picks as I would only lend out ones I'm okay with losing. If it happens all the time, that's a problem. I also never borrow gear like that unless I am at a friend's house and I have no guitar at all and he wants to play. Then I have to borrow everything. Likewise I am pretty sure I haven't lost straps through borrowing. I buy picks in bulk so there I really don't care
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Post by zontar on Jan 2, 2021 19:53:41 GMT
I would only lend picks I am okay with not getting back So it probably be a Tortex as I have many of those I like
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 4, 2021 1:21:30 GMT
I would only lend picks I am okay with not getting back So it probably be a Tortex as I have many of those I like Good idea, picks do tend to not get returned
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Post by zontar on Jan 4, 2021 1:26:49 GMT
Anybody have anything else to add?
I tend to treat others a equals in a sense. Even when playing with kids or new musicians--Basically respect each person there.
If they are being an idiot though--call them on it in a manner appropriate to the others there & context (as in gig vs rehearsal vs jam vs recording, etc) But otherwise treat them well. If they are struggling with something & you have an idea to help--present it that way--don't berate them.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 4, 2021 1:33:40 GMT
One thing I can say when playing with others is that I have very little tolerance for when phones come out between songs. I'll say nicely to put the phone away the first time, but not the 5th and 6th times
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Post by johnreardon on Jan 4, 2021 9:44:40 GMT
One thing I can say when playing with others is that I have very little tolerance for when phones come out between songs. I'll say nicely to put the phone away the first time, but not the 5th and 6th times I'm the same. I turn mine off when playing. Always take it in case I break down though.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 4, 2021 13:50:21 GMT
One thing I can say when playing with others is that I have very little tolerance for when phones come out between songs. I'll say nicely to put the phone away the first time, but not the 5th and 6th times I'm the same. I turn mine off when playing. Always take it in case I break down though. I put mine on silent at concerts. At rehearsal however it is really irritates me when we are counting in and guys have their phones out. I've even seen guys with their phones out on the bandstand in concerts, which I find incredibly unprofessional
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Post by infant on Jan 4, 2021 23:59:03 GMT
Mine sits on my amp at gigs and stays in vibrate mode. I will check it when we take a break. I do the same at rehearsals but I usually have it plugged into the PA if we are learning a new song. I have Spotify on my phone so if we need to hear the song, I can find it and play it for the guys.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 5, 2021 1:41:59 GMT
Mine sits on my amp at gigs and stays in vibrate mode. I will check it when we take a break. I do the same at rehearsals but I usually have it plugged into the PA if we are learning a new song. I have Spotify on my phone so if we need to hear the song, I can find it and play it for the guys. That makes sense- good learning aid
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