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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 23, 2020 13:44:25 GMT
He hit you with the slide??? I Suspect the guy was either just a bad player or the keys were tripping him up. Sharp keys are about as beloved to horn players as flat keys are to guitar players Yes, but to be fair to him, it was a crowded floor area. I kept trying to get out of his way, but I think he was following me Not a good instrument for playing in a small space!
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Post by zontar on Dec 23, 2020 20:10:31 GMT
I’ve jokingly swung my bass neck around to claim my space But I make it obvious I’m joking
Although I doubt most people would want to get whacked by it
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 23, 2020 20:46:59 GMT
I’ve jokingly swung my bass neck around to claim my space But I make it obvious I’m joking Although I doubt most people would want to get whacked by it No I think that could really hurt
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 2:17:49 GMT
I’ve jokingly swung my bass neck around to claim my space But I make it obvious I’m joking Although I doubt most people would want to get whacked by it No I think that could really hurt So stay out of my way then. In a way it could be like getting hit by a baseball bat--and if the machines hit you! but i've never actually hit anybody with one--althoughI have played crash cymbals with the tuner buttons.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 24, 2020 2:37:55 GMT
No I think that could really hurt So stay out of my way then. In a way it could be like getting hit by a baseball bat--and if the machines hit you! but i've never actually hit anybody with one--althoughI have played crash cymbals with the tuner buttons. That really upset drummers. Don't touch their cymbals... don't even look at them
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 4:58:09 GMT
So stay out of my way then. In a way it could be like getting hit by a baseball bat--and if the machines hit you! but i've never actually hit anybody with one--althoughI have played crash cymbals with the tuner buttons. That really upset drummers. Don't touch their cymbals... don't even look at them And definitely don't crash cymbals with a Gibson headstock. Just sayin'......
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 7:30:59 GMT
So stay out of my way then. In a way it could be like getting hit by a baseball bat--and if the machines hit you! but i've never actually hit anybody with one--althoughI have played crash cymbals with the tuner buttons. That really upset drummers. Don't touch their cymbals... don't even look at them Depends on the drummer.
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 7:31:45 GMT
That really upset drummers. Don't touch their cymbals... don't even look at them And definitely don't crash cymbals with a Gibson headstock. Just sayin'...... Lightly tap it with the tuner button--no problem
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Post by Bill h on Dec 24, 2020 13:21:37 GMT
That really upset drummers. Don't touch their cymbals... don't even look at them And definitely don't crash cymbals with a Gibson headstock. Just sayin'...... LoL..... the dreaded Gibson headstock. Never snapped one myself but I’ve read a lot of stories.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 24, 2020 14:05:12 GMT
Oh that would be bad...
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 19:53:55 GMT
And definitely don't crash cymbals with a Gibson headstock. Just sayin'...... LoL..... the dreaded Gibson headstock. Never snapped one myself but I’ve read a lot of stories. I find these are exaggerated But then many of the ones I have played, had volutes A friend had a Les Paul with a volute & dropped it on a basement floor No carpet, no padding It landed headstock first No damage other than a small dent And it needed a slight retune on a couple of strings Wish we had it on video
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 24, 2020 19:58:38 GMT
I didn't know they were prone to breaking
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 20:24:47 GMT
They're usually repairable--and they're strong if the repair is done well--but it does put a big dent in the resale value.
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Post by Bill h on Dec 24, 2020 20:45:59 GMT
It happens, your guitar would need to land at just the right angle to do it I guess. I’ve read enough horror stories about it so they be susceptible to it.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 24, 2020 20:46:01 GMT
They're usually repairable--and they're strong if the repair is done well--but it does put a big dent in the resale value. I can imagine that would really affect value
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 20:52:39 GMT
They're usually repairable--and they're strong if the repair is done well--but it does put a big dent in the resale value. I can imagine that would really affect value It does, even though a good repair makes for stronger connection neckties--and a well done one is not noticeable--at least from the front. Of course some people try to cover it up completely & hide that one has been done.
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 21:07:37 GMT
I've ha d neck/headstock repair on one guitar--my classical. It came with a cheap pressboard case--and I kept meaning to get a better one, but never did.
One day I took it with me when I was teaching. On my way home I slipped on some ice and the case came crashing down--with little protection for the guitar.
Since it was cold I didn't open the case when I got home. The next day I grabbed that guitar again, and I got to the studio a bit early to allow the guitar time to warm up.
When my first student showed up I went to grab the guitar out of the case & I almost cried--the headstock was not where it should be.
I closed the case as I couldn't show that to my student. They probably didn't get the best lesson, as I was distracted. My second student didn't show up, so I opened the case, loosened the strings & called a friend who did guitar repair.
He was abel to fix it--and while you can see that there wa s a repair, it was done well and plays just as well as before. (And i did get a new case soon after that--which offers much more protection)
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 24, 2020 22:08:39 GMT
That reminds me, many years ago I had a Gretsch classical guitar- it wasn't in great shape and my friend gave it to me under instructions that it should stay detuned like a baritone because it couldn't take the tension. It was standing in the corner of my office and my son, who was pretty little at the time caught it by accident while passing by..
The guitar took a bad spill and basically disintegrated. The whole top caved in and the headstock snapped off. There was no way to repair it without spending a load of money.
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Post by johnreardon on Dec 25, 2020 10:26:23 GMT
I didn't know they were prone to breaking It's the 17 degree angle of the headstock that makes them prone. Luckily I haven't broken any of mine yet.
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Post by Bill h on Dec 25, 2020 15:38:46 GMT
I know watching the headstock snap off a guitar is something I never want to experience, horrifying to say the least. Can’t see how it wouldn’t have a significant impact on value, especially on the higher end custom shop lp’s. How much of an impact is subjective from what I’ve read but an impact nonetheless. I have one custom shop guitar, the thought of it just gives me the chills.
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Post by zontar on Dec 25, 2020 20:51:48 GMT
I didn't know they were prone to breaking It's the 17 degree angle of the headstock that makes them prone. Luckily I haven't broken any of mine yet. Given the angle & the truss rod there's less wood there. That's why at one point they added a volute--to gooier extra dod there at the weak point But they discontinued it after a few years because people complained that's not how the old ones were made. Never mind that it is an improvement. Ibanez still uses volutes on some of their guitars & basses, because of that potential weakness. (My fretless & arch top both have them,a s doe my older Ibanez)
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Post by zontar on Dec 25, 2020 21:00:33 GMT
There are different shapes to volutes--but most Gibson volutes looked like this: (So do the Ibanez ones I've seen)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2020 22:20:25 GMT
Something I've seen several times are comments from luthiers who've had to deal with headstock breakage. They almost always point out that the point of the breakage invariably ends up stronger than the adjacent wood. Damage rarely occurs at the same point in the future. And, I've seen some remarkable repair jobs that would seem invisible unless you really knew what you were looking for.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 25, 2020 22:39:19 GMT
Something I've seen several times are comments from luthiers who've had to deal with headstock breakage. They almost always point out that the point of the breakage invariably ends up stronger than the adjacent wood. Damage rarely occurs at the same point in the future. And, I've seen some remarkable repair jobs that would seem invisible unless you really knew what you were looking for. I've heard people also say that glued joints are stronger than the original wood, but tell that to collectors or potential buyers...
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Post by zontar on Dec 25, 2020 23:03:09 GMT
Something I've seen several times are comments from luthiers who've had to deal with headstock breakage. They almost always point out that the point of the breakage invariably ends up stronger than the adjacent wood. Damage rarely occurs at the same point in the future. And, I've seen some remarkable repair jobs that would seem invisible unless you really knew what you were looking for. I've heard people also say that glued joints are stronger than the original wood, but tell that to collectors or potential buyers... But there you are looking at originality & other factors, if just looking at playability a well done repair shouldn't be a deterrent.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 25, 2020 23:24:15 GMT
Yeah, but cracks are always going to be a concern to a lot of people
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Post by zontar on Dec 25, 2020 23:48:51 GMT
So when you play with others do you take note of the condition of their gear? I tend not to--unless it's extreme, but I know people who do.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 25, 2020 23:59:21 GMT
So when you play with others do you take note of the condition of their gear? I tend not to--unless it's extreme, but I know people who do. No I wouldn't notice that unless it was really obvious, in a bad way
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Post by zontar on Dec 27, 2020 2:07:09 GMT
I do ask people about their gear though Some are like us, some have not clue or no interest. Either is fine and a person's choice--but I do enjoy having a good conversation on gear
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 27, 2020 15:55:11 GMT
I do ask people about their gear though Some are like us, some have not clue or no interest. Either is fine and a person's choice--but I do enjoy having a good conversation on gear And believe me most guys I know love talking about their gear!
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