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Post by Grand Toad on Jun 30, 2016 5:12:09 GMT
Finally back at it. Practicing, and learning some old Stones songs. Lest anyone try to fool you, the late 60s, and early 70s stuff is rhythmically challenging. Lots of syncopation, and just off kilter stuff. I guess that's why I've always loved Keith Richards, he's off kilter.
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Post by Bill h on Jun 30, 2016 15:11:11 GMT
Finally back at it. Practicing, and learning some old Stones songs. Lest anyone try to fool you, the late 60s, and early 70s stuff is rhythmically challenging. Lots of syncopation, and just off kilter stuff. I guess that's why I've always loved Keith Richards, he's off kilter. What you just said is a stone cold fact. I challenge any one to play honky tonk women exactly note for note Rythem wise. It's no walk in the park.
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Post by Mindfrigg on Jul 1, 2016 3:15:22 GMT
Oh. From the title I thought maybe David had gotten a scrip for Viagra. Yep. Both Keef and Page had a stagger to their syncopation that really catches ya.
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Post by Grand Toad on Jul 1, 2016 4:49:35 GMT
Finally back at it. Practicing, and learning some old Stones songs. Lest anyone try to fool you, the late 60s, and early 70s stuff is rhythmically challenging. Lots of syncopation, and just off kilter stuff. I guess that's why I've always loved Keith Richards, he's off kilter. What you just said is a stone cold fact. I challenge any one to play honky tonk women exactly note for note Rythem wise. It's no walk in the park. That's something I've actually done. It took me nearly a month to learn. Back when I learned there was no tab. I learned the song by essentially wearing out a copy of "Through The Past Darkly" that I got at a used record store for a buck. I learned more rhythm tricks with that one song that I learned from all the other tunes I knew.
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Post by Grand Toad on Jul 4, 2016 17:24:58 GMT
So, in my twisted quest to relearn my Keith rhythm, I've relearned "Brown Sugar", "Happy", "All Down The Line", and "Tumbling Dice".
Yes, they seem easy, until you try to do them with all the little fills and quirks.
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Post by Maxwell on Jul 6, 2016 14:59:47 GMT
Coolio! Hell Toad, Robert Johnson sounds easy right up to the point you try to play it like he did...
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Post by Maxwell on Jul 6, 2016 15:04:29 GMT
It's the quirks that always get ya... like folks that always play complete chords on zz stuff live... don't even sound right... it's the space that is magic not the thick...
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Post by Bill h on Jul 9, 2016 18:12:43 GMT
I was never able to duplicate Keith Richards, I always struggled with stones music. I remember the first time I listened to Robert Johnson, I thought it was two guys playing. It's in trying to duplicate someone like a Keith Richards you learn things. People like to say "I want to put my own stamp on a cover", and that's cool and as it should be, but it doesn't hurt to sit down and really try to capture what the guitar player is doing.
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Post by Grand Toad on Jul 16, 2016 3:04:22 GMT
On the agenda - so far. (Ain't Nothin' But A) House Party by the J. Geils Band. An old favorite.
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Post by Colchar on Jul 16, 2016 16:46:14 GMT
I need to get back at it too. I have barely touched a guitar in weeks as I have been far too busy. When I do pick one up again (likely not until the end of this coming week) I am going to re-familiarize myself with slide and then take a couple of lessons with a guy I know who teaches at my local store.
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Post by Grand Toad on Jul 16, 2016 21:16:36 GMT
Col,
I think you should go big. Try learning Johnny Winter's version of "Highway 61 Revisited." LOL.
Really though - the ABB version of "Trouble No More" is pretty simple. I do it in Open E.
"Dust My Broom" is pretty easy, and it would help with technique. Open E.
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Post by Colchar on Jul 16, 2016 23:07:22 GMT
Col, I think you should go big. Try learning Johnny Winter's version of "Highway 61 Revisited." LOL. Really though - the ABB version of "Trouble No More" is pretty simple. I do it in Open E. "Dust My Broom" is pretty easy, and it would help with technique. Open E. I know part of Dust My Broom already. My problem right now is that I simply have no time to play. As I mentioned in another post, I am undergoing a career change due to the arthritis in my hands making it painful to type, which I currently need to do in order to earn a living. In order to facilitate that career change I am taking a quick program at a local college. This program condenses a full semester's worth of work into five weeks and I am currently taking two courses in it which makes the workload even heavier. Come September I will be taking three courses, one is a teaching practicum so there won't be any work in that for the first 2-3 weeks but the workload will still be heavy. But the guy who runs the program has already contacted me to meet with him, which I did last Monday and during that meeting he was ready to offer me a teaching job for September but couldn't as I won't finish the program until late October. So he is looking at finding me something else at the college for September (hopefully a history course but they don't teach many of those so, if not that, then something in their writing center) and then a teaching position in his program for January. In other words, the program I am taking has paid off already (well it has when combined with my previous education and teaching experience as they were huge factors in him wanting to hire me) but the workload is heavy, and outside of my previous fields of study, so I simply haven't had time to pick up a guitar. They are lying twenty feet from me right now but I cannot even think of picking one up as I have too much work to do.
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Post by Grand Toad on Jul 16, 2016 23:22:38 GMT
Col,
I've been through similar job situations. I got my teaching credential in an accelerated program. I wish you well.
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Post by Colchar on Jul 17, 2016 0:56:20 GMT
Col, I've been through similar job situations. I got my teaching credential in an accelerated program. I wish you well. Thanks bro. Since you did your teaching qualification in an accelerated program you know exactly what the workload can be like. I didn't want to go to teacher's college (too long and not enough jobs available because we have graduated too many teachers over the last decade) so I am doing a qualification for teaching ESL (you cannot do that here with a normal teaching degree, the ESL teaching qualification is a separate one entirely). I am doing a two semester program in a total of ten weeks. The workload is nowhere near that which you and I experienced in our PhD programs but we were doing those in fields we were familiar with whereas this is completely out of my comfort zone. The grammar, in particular, is kicking my ass right now. Normally you take a grammar course before the course on how to teach grammar, but I am doing it backwards so didn't get the refresher first. I write very well but forget a lot of grammar rules. I can conjugate any verb in English but don't know the technical details (this is true for most native speakers of a language). For example, without looking it up how many native English speakers know what the present perfect continuous version of a verb is or how that is formed? It is kicking my ass I tell ya'! But the program director said that he has a Master's in English and that the grammar kicked his ass when he did the program so I don't feel quite so bad. He also said that you can spend your career teaching without ever touching that shit if you stick to teaching beginners, which I already had in mind. Luckily, the ESL programs at the college don't teach that crap...they teach how to read, write, etc. to prepare people for academic programs. That stuff I can do - easily - so I am not worried about being able to teach the material when he finds me a position. But I have to get through the program first and that includes the grammar After our meeting he introduced me to the Dean and told her that he was looking to hire me. During our conversation with her grammar came up and she was bitching about it too. As she said "I don't care if they don't know what a past participle is!" So, as I said, I don't feel so bad about it now but I still have to get through it. Oh well, by this time next weekend it will all be over until September.
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Post by Grand Toad on Jul 17, 2016 1:20:51 GMT
Funny enough, one of the classes I'll be teaching this coming year is an ELD (English Language Development {ESL}) class. In a fit of genius the district won't have my curriculum until three days before school starts in a couple of weeks.
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Post by Colchar on Jul 17, 2016 1:44:28 GMT
Funny enough, one of the classes I'll be teaching this coming year is an ELD (English Language Development {ESL}) class. In a fit of genius the district won't have my curriculum until three days before school starts in a couple of weeks. That is a funny coincidence. Do you know what level it is at?
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