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Post by Colchar on Dec 24, 2015 4:16:17 GMT
Seagulls are excellent guitars and, as Thump quite correctly said, are amazing for the price. All of the Godin lines are excellent values but the Seagulls and Simon & Patricks are the best of them. My next purchase will be a Simon & Patrick or an Art & Lutherie (another of the Godin lines). I want a smaller, parlour sized acoustic for slide playing. At least I think it is parlour sized that I am after. Basically I want something about the size of the guitar that Robert Johnson is holding in this famous photo (the length of that guy's fingers always astonishes me - no wonder he could play so well!!!):
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Post by thumpalumpacus on Dec 25, 2015 9:54:25 GMT
Seagulls are excellent guitars and, as Thump quite correctly said, are amazing for the price. All of the Godin lines are execellent values but the Seagulls and Simon & Patricks are the best of them. My next purchase will be a Simon & Patrick or an Art & Lutherie (another of the Godin lines). I want a smaller, parlour sized acoustic for slide playing. At least I think it is parlour sized that I am after. Basically I want something about the size of the guitar that Robert Johnson is holding in this famous photo (the length of that guy's fingers always astonishes me - no wonder he could play so well!!!): There's a Godin Strat in my future sometime in the next couple of years. I've played several, and though I'd probably swap pickups (going by my own experience) Those guitars play great and are built to a Tee.
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Post by Colchar on Dec 28, 2015 5:59:34 GMT
There's a Godin Strat in my future sometime in the next couple of years. I've played several, and though I'd probably swap pickups (going by my own experience) Those guitars play great and are built to a Tee. I've never owned one but have checked them out in stores countless times as they are readily available here. Every single one that I have checked out has been of excellent quality, just excellent. When you do get one it will be money well spent. The only thing I don't like about them is that most of them have the HDR (High Definition Revoicer I believe it stands for) switch that takes you from passive to active pickups.
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Post by thumpalumpacus on Dec 28, 2015 6:32:22 GMT
There's a Godin Strat in my future sometime in the next couple of years. I've played several, and though I'd probably swap pickups (going by my own experience) Those guitars play great and are built to a Tee. I've never owned one but have checked them out in stores countless times as they are readily available here. Every single one that I have checked out has been of excellent quality, just excellent. When you do get one it will be money well spent. The only thing I don't like about them is that most of them have the HDR (High Definition Revoicer I believe it stands for) switch that takes you from passive to active pickups. I was unaware of that last bit ... maybe that's why I didn't care for the pickups? The few that I've played sounded sterile. The build quality and feel, however, were as good as you could ask for, easily the equal of a USA Strat off the line. And besides, I want a Strat with a minihumbucker in the middle position, to make that otherwise useless stop on the five-way actually productive.
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Post by Colchar on Dec 28, 2015 6:37:39 GMT
I've never owned one but have checked them out in stores countless times as they are readily available here. Every single one that I have checked out has been of excellent quality, just excellent. When you do get one it will be money well spent. The only thing I don't like about them is that most of them have the HDR (High Definition Revoicer I believe it stands for) switch that takes you from passive to active pickups. I was unaware of that last bit ... maybe that's why I didn't care for the pickups? The few that I've played sounded sterile. The build quality and feel, however, were as good as you could ask for, easily the equal of a USA Strat off the line. And besides, I want a Strat with a minihumbucker in the middle position, to make that otherwise useless stop on the five-way actually productive. Yes that might well explain why you didn't like the pickups. But since pickups are easily swapped, that is easily disconnected.
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Post by Bill h on Jan 3, 2016 19:36:50 GMT
Seagulls are excellent guitars and, as Thump quite correctly said, are amazing for the price. All of the Godin lines are execellent values but the Seagulls and Simon & Patricks are the best of them. My next purchase will be a Simon & Patrick or an Art & Lutherie (another of the Godin lines). I want a smaller, parlour sized acoustic for slide playing. At least I think it is parlour sized that I am after. Basically I want something about the size of the guitar that Robert Johnson is holding in this famous photo (the length of that guy's fingers always astonishes me - no wonder he could play so well!!!): I remember the first time I heard Robert Johnson, I would have bet my life it was two guys playing, my brother got me the whole Robert johnson collection for Christmas a few years ago but I lost it in a house fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 14:52:21 GMT
seagulls are fantastic guitars, i've heard that they are a bit fragile, is that true? It's kinda why i like yamaha's so much. can practically el kabong them and they remain playable
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Post by thumpalumpacus on Jan 4, 2016 16:06:09 GMT
Harmony's Seagull pictured above felt a little light, but it endured an extra-long journey to get to her with no issues. On an acoustic, a heavy build can easily become counter-productive, as mass dampens resonance.
Part of the reputation -- which I hadn't heard before reading your post -- might have to do with the fact that Seagull uses cedar more often than other steel-string manufacturers. Cedar is notorious for dinging if you so much as look at it wrong.
But damn, it makes some beautiful noise.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 16:11:07 GMT
well, beautiful noise is a good thing. Just means take the yammy to the campfire and keep the seagull for in the house
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Post by gooner on Jan 5, 2016 12:56:46 GMT
also...what's the penalty for a derail on this here forum? Memes, and cat pictures. I'm on 9.2 and Jam Up works for me.
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Post by Colchar on Jan 6, 2016 4:39:12 GMT
seagulls are fantastic guitars, i've heard that they are a bit fragile, is that true? Not even remotely. I've owned a couple and an Art & Lutherie and none of them were fragile.
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Post by Colchar on Feb 4, 2016 23:55:54 GMT
I am really hoping that there are some parlour sized guitars available in the big inventory blowout sale that the chain I shop at has every year. It is coming up next weekend so I will be looking to scoop something. If there is one but it is located a long way away I can wait until after the sale and, if it hasn't sold, my store can then bring it in for me.
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Post by Danl K on Mar 4, 2016 0:50:50 GMT
My Yammie is currently living with my daughter because she's outgrown her 3/4 sized Ibanez.
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Post by stonedcrow on Mar 30, 2016 13:23:55 GMT
Two years ago I would of agreed with everything said here about Yamaha's lines of both acoustics and nylon string acoustic guitars, hell I used to be endorsed by them for teaching - low level endorsement so low that when I left them I had to buy the guitars they loaned me for endorsement purposes off of them since I wanted to keep them, now if you ask me for a recommendation for a solid good value for money acoustic, I suggest to my students that they look at Ibanez first, before they look at Yamaha's. Don't get me wrong I still think Yamaha are great guitars, I just don't think they are as good value for money as they used to be, five years ago you where getting not just a solid wood body acoustic, or nylon string classical guitar for less than any other manufacturer would sell one, but you where getting a solid wood body acoustic or nylon string classical guitars from above their entry level instruments, a tier two level guitar, or even a tier three level guitar, nowadays they're solid wood entry level acoustic and nylon string classical guitars are not that much cheaper than everybody else's entry level solid wood acoustic and nylon string classical guitars, their are still good bang for your buck, but they are no longer great bang for your buck.
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Post by stonedcrow on Apr 1, 2016 11:30:46 GMT
Seagulls are excellent guitars and, as Thump quite correctly said, are amazing for the price. All of the Godin lines are execellent values but the Seagulls and Simon & Patricks are the best of them. My next purchase will be a Simon & Patrick or an Art & Lutherie (another of the Godin lines). I want a smaller, parlour sized acoustic for slide playing. At least I think it is parlour sized that I am after. Basically I want something about the size of the guitar that Robert Johnson is holding in this famous photo (the length of that guy's fingers always astonishes me - no wonder he could play so well!!!): There's a Godin Strat in my future sometime in the next couple of years. I've played several, and though I'd probably swap pickups (going by my own experience) Those guitars play great and are built to a Tee. I don't know if you have noticed this, it hasn't been mentioned in the thread, but the parlor guitar, yes it's a parlor guitar there is a biography of sorts on Robert Johnson that will tell you what brand that guitar is, it's actually a cheap brand from memory, is that the neck on that guitar is joined to the body at the 12th fret, not the 14th which is where necks are joined to bodies on acoustics by default nowadays, in fact since the 80's if not earlier - it's too early in the morning for me to check my books books on Dylon to look at his acoustics from the 50's or Hendrix for the 60's, I'm pretty sure that the neck joining the body at the 12th fret was the standard pre war, ie, the 30's, which puts it in the correct time frame for Robert Johnson, the guy was born in 1911 and died in 1938, plus a birch wood parlor guitar that I have seen that was built in 1933 has the neck joined in the same position. So if you want a guitar just like the one Robert Johnson is holding in that photo, you going to have to buy an old parlor guitar, most likely a pre war no truss truss thing, or look for a modern reproduction of a 1930's parlor guitar. Both these options are rather limiting, a guitar of that age even a parlor guitar is not cheap, so if you want to go down this route your going to have to be prepared to hand over serious coin for a guitar that is in good condition, or be prepared to buy one that needs quite a bit of work done to it to make it 'playable', like have it's neck reset, the bracing redone.... in other words repairs your average or even highly skilled guitar tech won't be able to do, but something a highly skilled luthier will be able to do, so what you would save in the purchasing of the guitar's cost you would be spending on a good luthier to get it fixed to a playable standard. The second option is the modern reproduction route, right now off the top of my head I can only think of one or two manufacturers who have specifically based their parlor guitar on how they where originally made in the 1930's and joined the necks to the bodies at the 12th fret, have the same scale length, and same length of fretboard. Or if you don't care about accuracy, practically every guitar manufacturer that has an acoustic line of guitars, even Faith, make parlor guitars, however they all have the necks joined to the body at the 14th fret, so they therefore have a longer fretboard and scale length, but these can be had cheaply, both Fender and Epiphone make very good modern parlor guitars that retail for around the US$100 mark, and they both have had very good reviews, and from memory have solid tops at least, if not solid backs and sides as well.
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Post by Colchar on Apr 1, 2016 16:29:12 GMT
I don't care about accuracy. I'm not good enough to worry about that. Just something parlour sized for slide. Or if I find a cheap dreadnought or something I'll say fuck it and go that route.
As for reproductions, Gibson now has a couple. I haven't checked them out though.
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Post by stonedcrow on Apr 1, 2016 19:48:15 GMT
I don't care about accuracy. I'm not good enough to worry about that. Just something parlour sized for slide. Or if I find a cheap dreadnought or something I'll say fuck it and go that route. As for reproductions, Gibson now has a couple. I haven't checked them out though. Gibson do a guitar that is sort of based off of that photo as well as being a reproduction of the parlor guitars that Gibson made in the 1920's and 1930's, the Gibson L-1, it's a really really nice parlor guitar, they did a special edition 'Robert Johnson' version of them for one or two years, they had 'Robert Johnson' inlayed into the last two frets, 'Robert' on one fret, 'Johnson' on the last fret, I can't remember the material they used for the inlay, it might of been mother of pearl, it looked really nice, though the heads on the tuners/machineheads where a bit of a let down being made of white plastic. It's a very wide guitar especially for it's size, I'm guessing around 4 to 4.5 inches wide, it's as wide as your average dreadnought guitar, I've actually seen many dreadnoughts thinner than the Gibson L-1, so for what it doesn't have in terms of length, it makes up for with it's depth. I don't know what the Robert Johnson special edition L-1's went for, but the standard ones go for around US$2,000.00 if I remember rightly.
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Post by jdto on Apr 2, 2016 22:26:56 GMT
The Gibson L-1s I've had a chance to check out have been quite something, but with the appropriate price tag. Godin's offerings are really great. The Seagull S6 was my first steel string acoustic and it was a heck of a guitar that I think I should've kept. The lower-end Godin electrics I've tried have been great physically, but the electronics were a bit sub-par. Just crappy pots and low quality jacks and switches. The Core CT is a beauty of a guitar with great feel, fit and finish, but I'd probably swap out the harness after renting one for a month. I found the model I used to have very little variance in tone with the stock pots and a scratchy input jack.
As for Seagull and S&P guitars, they remind me of one of the girls who worked at the gentlemen's club near my house in Mexico. She wasn't the prettiest or the fanciest, but you got a lot for your money.
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Post by Colchar on Apr 3, 2016 17:02:44 GMT
I just checked and the model I was referring to is indeed an L-1. This one is called the 'Blues Tribute'. I am not sure if that is the same as previous versions of the guitar or if this is a new one.
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Post by jdto on Apr 6, 2016 3:40:18 GMT
I just checked and the model I was referring to is indeed an L-1. This one is called the 'Blues Tribute'. I am not sure if that is the same as previous versions of the guitar or if this is a new one. Yeah, that's the one. It's on quite a sale right now and I thought it was pretty sweet. I am GASsed out, or I'd be checking one out very hard.
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