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Post by Bill h on Oct 19, 2022 10:14:08 GMT
I bought my workhorse strat in 2000 and had some mods done to it that same year. One of those mods was replacing the nut. I had the bone nut put on because I used the whammy a lot in those days. Anyhow, I was at a jam session last weekend and I was making alot of mistakes, missing strings, trouble grabbing chords. I thought I was losing it, I’m not a great guitar player to begin with but this was worse then usual. A couple days after that I pulled out the guitar to practice and the same thing happened, on my couch! So I’m sitting there frustrated with the guitar in my lap and I just happened to look at the nut and it all became clear. The nut a slid almost a quarter of an inch over and the high e was barely over the neck with the other strings slightly out of place of course. Maybe not quite a quarter but enough to cause problems. It was actually a relief for me to find that. The guitar needs a re-fret anyhow so now I have to find someone to fix it. You would think you would notice something like that right away but who pulls out their guitar and thinks “I better look at that nut”? Anyway, lesson learned.
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Post by edwardbloom on Oct 20, 2022 2:46:27 GMT
if i might make a suggestion that would be helpful:
instal an lsr roller nut and a set of locking tuners. tuning stability will increase dramatically, string changes are easier and faster, and the roller nut will out last and out perform bone by a huge margin. especially for someone who uses the whammy alot. i do this every time i build a strat, i'll never have one any other way.
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Damn nut
Oct 20, 2022 9:00:18 GMT
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Post by Bill h on Oct 20, 2022 9:00:18 GMT
if i might make a suggestion that would be helpful: instal an lsr roller nut and a set of locking tuners. tuning stability will increase dramatically, string changes are easier and faster, and the roller nut will out last and out perform bone by a huge margin. especially for someone who uses the whammy alot. i do this every time i build a strat, i'll never have one any other way. I looked at roller nuts originally, I have locking tuners on the headstock, can’t remember why, I just went with bone at the time. I think the roller idea is a good one, I think I’ll go with it. |
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Post by highdeaf on Oct 20, 2022 17:43:25 GMT
The roller is going to be some surgery to get it to fit. No real downside except for that.
I have a couple of old guitars where the glue holding the nut in place had gotten old and dry and the nut started to slip back and forth. With string pressure removed, I was able to reglue the nut(after removing some of the old glue remnants), center it and, once set, attach strings and everything was fine. Didn't even require intonation. That could be a consideration if you want to avoid the bigger job.
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Damn nut
Oct 21, 2022 18:44:02 GMT
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Post by Bill h on Oct 21, 2022 18:44:02 GMT
The roller is going to be some surgery to get it to fit. No real downside except for that. I have a couple of old guitars where the glue holding the nut in place had gotten old and dry and the nut started to slip back and forth. With string pressure removed, I was able to reglue the nut(after removing some of the old glue remnants), center it and, once set, attach strings and everything was fine. Didn't even require intonation. That could be a consideration if you want to avoid the bigger job. What kind of glue would you use? |
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Post by laristotle on Oct 21, 2022 19:19:01 GMT
Carpenter's glue is fine.
I don't glue mine. String tension keeps it in place.
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Post by edwardbloom on Oct 22, 2022 16:50:02 GMT
Carpenter's glue is fine. I don't glue mine. String tension keeps it in place. oh man, string tension... i don't remember which forum, but there was one i used to go to where a member was obsessed with string tension. i couldn't understand why it was so important to him. i think it was some kind of ocd thing. he created endless threads on the subject. because there is more than one way to measure it, i don't think he ever got the definitive answer he was looking for. |
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Post by highdeaf on Oct 22, 2022 18:43:10 GMT
Carpenter's glue is fine. I don't glue mine. String tension keeps it in place.
Yea, I just used carpenter's (white) glue. Something removable - I wouldn't use something crazy like PL90 or Gorilla glue for it. That stuff's too permanent.
I had one guitar (not a Fender) where the nut moved a bit while playing, even with string tension. A bit of glue fixed 'er right up.
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Damn nut
Oct 23, 2022 12:43:32 GMT
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Post by Bill h on Oct 23, 2022 12:43:32 GMT
Carpenter's glue is fine. I don't glue mine. String tension keeps it in place.
Yea, I just used carpenter's (white) glue. Something removable - I wouldn't use something crazy like PL90 or Gorilla glue for it. That stuff's too permanent.
I had one guitar (not a Fender) where the nut moved a bit while playing, even with string tension. A bit of glue fixed 'er right up.
Think that’s what I’ll do. The roller nut is appealing but I rarely use the whammy anymore. |
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Post by edwardbloom on Oct 24, 2022 3:34:30 GMT
the roller nut is also for tuning stability. it's impossible to bind. i never use the whammy. the other thing i do to every strat i build, is put a tremol-no on it.  this one is the last one i built. i wish i still had it. lsr nut, locking tuners, custom 2-hole pick guard, black/red/black (i dropped it to 1 vol, 1 tone) evh frankenstein bridge pick up, spinal tap vol knob that goes to 11, tremol no, custom neck plate, copper shielded cavity, neck was completely gone-over, rolled the edges, did the fret ends, crown level and polished everything. it was amazing. i sold it at the very beginning of the pandemic in a panic. a couple weeks later i learned about the extra unemployment, and realized i would actually be bringing home even more money than while i was working. the guy i sold it to wisely refused to sell it back to me. cest la vie. next time i'll build something even cooler. the black one is my 3rd one. it's cooler than the 2nd one i built, which was pretty cool in it's own right.  |
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Post by edwardbloom on Oct 29, 2022 13:30:26 GMT
i can't believe this thread title has been here this long, and i haven't posted my favorite guitar meme:  |
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Damn nut
Oct 29, 2022 15:02:20 GMT
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Post by Bill h on Oct 29, 2022 15:02:20 GMT
i can't believe this thread title has been here this long, and i haven't posted my favorite guitar meme: Now that’s funny!! |
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Post by highdeaf on Oct 29, 2022 18:52:42 GMT
i can't believe this thread title has been here this long, and i haven't posted my favorite guitar meme:
Your nuts are broken. And it isn't even because of the G-string.
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Post by Bill h on Mar 6, 2023 23:43:40 GMT
Thought I would follow up here, I wound up bringing the guitar in for some other issues and wound up getting a re-fret. I kept the same nut and they took care of it and the strap button issue. The re-fret set me back a pretty penny but it was worth it.
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Post by edwardbloom on Mar 9, 2023 20:52:31 GMT
Thought I would follow up here, I wound up bringing the guitar in for some other issues and wound up getting a re-fret. I kept the same nut and they took care of it and the strap button issue. The re-fret set me back a pretty penny but it was worth it. it IS worth it when it's a guitar you love. the difference is huge. in the past, for me, i found myself wondering how i didn't notice how far things had degraded. the thing is, it happens so slowly, you continually adjust to it, incrementally... until you can't anymore. i have had similar experiences with other things, like tires on my bike |
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Post by Bill h on Mar 10, 2023 10:16:24 GMT
Thought I would follow up here, I wound up bringing the guitar in for some other issues and wound up getting a re-fret. I kept the same nut and they took care of it and the strap button issue. The re-fret set me back a pretty penny but it was worth it. it IS worth it when it's a guitar you love. the difference is huge. in the past, for me, i found myself wondering how i didn't notice how far things had degraded. the thing is, it happens so slowly, you continually adjust to it, incrementally... until you can't anymore. i have had similar experiences with other things, like tires on my bike The difference was huge, like you said, you don’t even notice how bad things are because it happens so slowly. I bought that guitar off the rack 23 years ago and it’s been my player ever since. I have other guitars but they rarely get played. |
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