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Post by zontar on Feb 24, 2022 6:16:42 GMT
Or at least according to this YouTuber.
Some of the things he calls ridiculous I like, some I don't. But hey, if it's your thing--cool. Go for it.
But I did enjoy the video, and will come back to add some comments as well, but feel free to comment as well...
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 24, 2022 9:56:25 GMT
I do wonder about painted on f holes. Why?
The rest are not 'ridiculous'. They're just choices for the buyer
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Post by edwardbloom on Feb 24, 2022 23:07:42 GMT
I do wonder about painted on f holes. Why?
The rest are not 'ridiculous'. They're just choices for the buyer
i mostly agree with you. the guy is kind of a wanker. painted on f-holes are stupid, and i think there needs to be some sort of restraint when it comes to controls. although i'm not a fan of relic'd guitars, they are very popular with lot of people. i agree with him and disagree with him at the same time on the gretch. if i wanted a malcom guitar, i would buy the full boogie unit, and modify it. that's what malcom did, and it would be more authentic than the sig model.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 25, 2022 1:18:55 GMT
I do wonder about painted on f holes. Why?
The rest are not 'ridiculous'. They're just choices for the buyer
i mostly agree with you. the guy is kind of a wanker. painted on f-holes are stupid, and i think there needs to be some sort of restraint when it comes to controls. although i'm not a fan of relic'd guitars, they are very popular with lot of people. i agree with him and disagree with him at the same time on the gretch. if i wanted a malcom guitar, i would buy the full boogie unit, and modify it. that's what malcom did, and it would be more authentic than the sig model. Agree with both you guys. And actually I use the rhythm circuit on my Jazzmaster all the time- doesn't seem ridiculous OR difficult to use for me...
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 25, 2022 9:26:20 GMT
i mostly agree with you. the guy is kind of a wanker. painted on f-holes are stupid, and i think there needs to be some sort of restraint when it comes to controls. although i'm not a fan of relic'd guitars, they are very popular with lot of people. i agree with him and disagree with him at the same time on the gretch. if i wanted a malcom guitar, i would buy the full boogie unit, and modify it. that's what malcom did, and it would be more authentic than the sig model. Agree with both you guys. And actually I use the rhythm circuit on my Jazzmaster all the time- doesn't seem ridiculous OR difficult to use for me... With guitars like the Jazzmaster, that has a lot of controls, I never bother to learn what they all do, I just fiddle with them until I get a good sound on that particular night. On another gig, that will have different acoustics, that setting may not work, so I fiddle again.
Playing plugged straight into amps, as I do, you have to adjust both amp and guitar controls until you get the sound you want, so no point in having certain settings you play with.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 25, 2022 12:39:10 GMT
Agree with both you guys. And actually I use the rhythm circuit on my Jazzmaster all the time- doesn't seem ridiculous OR difficult to use for me... With guitars like the Jazzmaster, that has a lot of controls, I never bother to learn what they all do, I just fiddle with them until I get a good sound on that particular night. On another gig, that will have different acoustics, that setting may not work, so I fiddle again.
Playing plugged straight into amps, as I do, you have to adjust both amp and guitar controls until you get the sound you want, so no point in having certain settings you play with.
The Jazzmaster is a lot easier than you'd think. The top controls are simply tone and volume for the neck pickup that bypass the main pickup selector and controls. Of course I don't constantly fiddle with my controls while I am playing on stage because it isn't necessary
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 25, 2022 12:53:09 GMT
With guitars like the Jazzmaster, that has a lot of controls, I never bother to learn what they all do, I just fiddle with them until I get a good sound on that particular night. On another gig, that will have different acoustics, that setting may not work, so I fiddle again.
Playing plugged straight into amps, as I do, you have to adjust both amp and guitar controls until you get the sound you want, so no point in having certain settings you play with.
The Jazzmaster is a lot easier than you'd think. The top controls are simply tone and volume for the neck pickup that bypass the main pickup selector and controls. Of course I don't constantly fiddle with my controls while I am playing on stage because it isn't necessary I did play one for a while in the 60s, so have a rough memory of what the do.
Even on 'simple' guitars like Strats and LPs, I am always adjusting controls as acoustics change through the night of gigs.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 25, 2022 13:08:32 GMT
The Jazzmaster is a lot easier than you'd think. The top controls are simply tone and volume for the neck pickup that bypass the main pickup selector and controls. Of course I don't constantly fiddle with my controls while I am playing on stage because it isn't necessary I did play one for a while in the 60s, so have a rough memory of what the do.
Even on 'simple' guitars like Strats and LPs, I am always adjusting controls as acoustics change through the night of gigs. Sure, it all depends on what you need! I can guarantee that when we are playing Irish music for St. Patrick's Day or Polkas for Oktoberfest my guitar will never need to use the lead pickup. But back to the original point, it is somewhat irritating that these people in the internet proclaim the "most ridiculous guitar features or design elements". It is all dependent on what part of the guitar world you are living in. Some players might argue that Floyd Rose tremolos, flying V's and Explorers are far more ridiculous than upside down headstocks. It isn't my place to say either way- It is all a matter of taste.
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Post by edwardbloom on Feb 25, 2022 20:00:42 GMT
it's good to be able to control the guitar, but when you have 6 micro switches, a 3 way switch, 2 volume, 2 tone knobs and a varitone knob, it's just ridiculous.
i like reverse hockey stick headstocks, i find them much easier to tune with.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 25, 2022 21:37:52 GMT
i t's good to be able to control the guitar, but when you have 6 micro switches, a 3 way switch, 2 volume, 2 tone knobs and a varitone knob, it's just ridiculous. i like reverse hockey stick headstocks, i find them much easier to tune with. Well I know I wouldn't need that functionality for sure!
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 26, 2022 10:08:05 GMT
I did play one for a while in the 60s, so have a rough memory of what the do.
Even on 'simple' guitars like Strats and LPs, I am always adjusting controls as acoustics change through the night of gigs. Sure, it all depends on what you need! I can guarantee that when we are playing Irish music for St. Patrick's Day or Polkas for Oktoberfest my guitar will never need to use the lead pickup. But back to the original point, it is somewhat irritating that these people in the internet proclaim the "most ridiculous guitar features or design elements". It is all dependent on what part of the guitar world you are living in. Some players might argue that Floyd Rose tremolos, flying V's and Explorers are far more ridiculous than upside down headstocks. It isn't my place to say either way- It is all a matter of taste. It's just click bait.
There is no best, worst or ridiculous.
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Post by zontar on Feb 27, 2022 6:56:27 GMT
I do wonder about painted on f holes. Why?
The rest are not 'ridiculous'. They're just choices for the buyer
Well painted on F Holes are a choice as well. It's like any kind of finish on a guitar--if you like them, cool. I wouldn't go searching them out, but they wouldn't be a deal breaker or a deal maker for me. I like these kinds of videos though. Gives me even more to think about. And they can be entertaining
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 27, 2022 10:28:21 GMT
I do wonder about painted on f holes. Why?
The rest are not 'ridiculous'. They're just choices for the buyer
Well painted on F Holes are a choice as well.It's like any kind of finish on a guitar--if you like them, cool. I wouldn't go searching them out, but they wouldn't be a deal breaker or a deal maker for me. I like these kinds of videos though. Gives me even more to think about. And they can be entertaining I agree, but for me, who usually couldn't care less about looks, they are ridiculous
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Post by zontar on Mar 5, 2022 23:16:38 GMT
Well the artist signature thing can be ridiculous at times. I have to kind of agree about the Malcolm Young signature Pay more for a guitar with 2 pickups removed? For me to buy a signature it has to offer more than what I can otherwise get--and not just a name & higher price tag.
But maybe that's me. If you want it--go for it.
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Post by zontar on Mar 10, 2022 6:41:19 GMT
Not owning a Tele, I can't comment on the jack. But on Les Pauls I prefer a metal jack plate over plastic (Covered that in another thread.) the plastic cracks--even if you don't over tighten the screws--just with time. Then the cable moves and you are more likely to get crackle.
As for vintage frets--I'm not picky about frets My Les Paul ahs the fretless wonder style frets & my Iceman has tall frets--I'm good with both.
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Post by zontar on Mar 13, 2022 1:11:16 GMT
Overkill on controls?
I think of 70s BC Rich
I know someone who had a BC Rich bass with tons of switches & controls. I'm not sure what they all did, and I tried to figure it out. Some settings seemed to be duplicates.
However on a 2 pickup guitar I prefer 2 tone controls more than 2 volume controls. If I had to have a 3 control guitar with 2 pickups, I'd prefer it to be 2 tones. I tend to use the neck pickup a lot, and I like the tone set differently than the bridge pickup. It's simple of rme to adjust the volume if I have to--but prefer to have the tone set differently. With humbuckers I normally don't use both pickups at the same time. With single coils on my Mustang I usually use both pickups--bit in phase & out of phase
That's probably different from mots guitar players--but that's what I hear.
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Post by highdeaf on Mar 22, 2022 14:29:25 GMT
I played a BC Rich Bich back in the 80s. I had to decide if I wanted to play music or the guitar. It was a bewildering array of knobs, switches ---- and machine heads, if you know the guitar. LOL Everything but 'the machine that goes BINGGGG'. That said, I wish I owned that Bich right now. Couldn't afford it then, sure couldn't afford it now! I do wonder about painted on f holes. Why? The rest are not 'ridiculous'. They're just choices for the buyer
Hard to believe guitar players will sacrifice logic for fashion and a sense of history. We hardly ever do that.
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Post by zontar on Mar 26, 2022 23:47:03 GMT
I played a BC Rich Bich back in the 80s. I had to decide if I wanted to play music or the guitar. It was a bewildering array of knobs, switches ---- and machine heads, if you know the guitar. LOL Everything but 'the machine that goes BINGGGG'. That said, I wish I owned that Bich right now. Couldn't afford it then, sure couldn't afford it now! I do wonder about painted on f holes. Why? The rest are not 'ridiculous'. They're just choices for the buyer
Hard to believe guitar players will sacrifice logic for fashion and a sense of history. We hardly ever do that. Hardly ever...
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