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Post by laristotle on Jan 26, 2022 22:59:58 GMT
Following Neil Young’s demands that his music be removed from Spotify in protest of dissemination of Covid-19 misinformation on Joe Rogan’s podcast, the streamer will take down his music, Young wrote in a letter on his website on Wednesday. Spotify also confirmed the news in their own statement.
Young posted a since-deleted letter on his website on Monday addressed to his management and record label demanding his music be removed from Spotify, noting that the company can have “Rogan or Young. Not both.”
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Post by spellcaster on Jan 26, 2022 23:23:23 GMT
I don't know if Neil's actions are taking any royalties money out of his pocket or if it's a purely symbolic protest, but I admire him for his convictions.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 27, 2022 1:47:51 GMT
Seems surprising to someone like me, but hey, if he feels it is the right thing to do, he's gotta do what he's gotta do
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Post by infant on Jan 29, 2022 14:58:05 GMT
I heard that Nickleback is threatening to release another album if Spotify doesn’t remove Joe Rogan
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Post by zontar on Jan 29, 2022 22:05:39 GMT
Apparently some are saying since Neil Young sold rights to his music he can't do that--but I guess it depend on what rights he sold & what conditions of that were/are.
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Post by laristotle on Jan 30, 2022 9:35:24 GMT
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 30, 2022 14:21:23 GMT
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Post by laristotle on Feb 1, 2022 11:54:38 GMT
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Post by spellcaster on Feb 3, 2022 17:45:04 GMT
There's no doubt that actions like Neil Young's have had an impact. I know there are other artists who've followed his example, and yesterday, I saw Joe Rogan on TV, trying to walk back some of the remarks that precipitated the situation. I'll give Rogan credit where credit due...At least he's sensitive enough to realize how many people he's pissed off....unlike Trump, the Pretender to the Presidential Throne, who's had a history of doubling down on every offensive thing he's said over the last few years.
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Post by stratosphere on Feb 3, 2022 18:59:11 GMT
Oh no, a political post outside of the political section.
I`m getting the urge to have some fun with this, but it wouldn`t end well, so I will digress.
Loved playing Neil`s songs for many years, but his songs no longer appeal to me. I guess we grow out of some songs, and grow into others as time passes. I think the only one I still play is "Comes a Time".
I think there "Comes A Time" when performers and composers should quit being political...all of em`.
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Post by infant on Feb 3, 2022 19:04:05 GMT
I read this morning that Steven Stills and David Crosby have asked to have their music pulled from Spotify and earlier this week Graham Nash asked to have his music removed. This is all fine and good but to make an impact, current artists like the Weeknd, Justin Beiber, Ed Sheeran, Drake, Taylor Swift, etc. need to ask that their music removed. These are the artists most listened to in the last year.
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Post by stratosphere on Feb 3, 2022 19:31:23 GMT
Let`s remove all music from Spotify until this gets sorted, shall we?
All Spotify contributors have to make their health status known to the entire world, or they get canceled.
Would that seem fair and just, have we gone far enough, or should we go farther, and what would that look like?
What will it take to sooth the inoculated horde?
I`m quite interested to know what dehumanizing act might actually relieve the pressure of this situation.
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Post by laristotle on Feb 3, 2022 19:55:48 GMT
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Post by Bill h on Feb 4, 2022 15:01:10 GMT
Kurt Russell can get in and out of there pretty easy. |
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Post by Bill h on Feb 4, 2022 15:01:42 GMT
I heard that Nickleback is threatening to release another album if Spotify doesn’t remove Joe Rogan That’s funny!! |
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Post by laristotle on Feb 5, 2022 0:20:16 GMT
Neil Young was right to leave Spotify, but not because of Joe RoganCalling out potentially medically dangerous conjecture is a worthy pursuit, but by choosing his target in this way, Young is delving into the exclusionary culture war that his younger, free speech-defending self used to rail against. “I never bow to the laws of the thought police,” he sang, not so long ago, in the protest song, “Living With War.”
In 2021, Spotify’s market valuation reached as high as US$70 billion ($89 billion). At an average of .003 to .005 cents per play, artists have to attract around 10 million streams per year — an astronomical threshold of popularity — to gross $40,000. Even if you count the streaming service as only part of an artist’s potential income, since most fans no longer pay creators (or record companies) directly for music, reasonable rates would go a long way towards making the craft viable for individuals, not to mention bands with a bunch of members.
Most musicians muse that putting their work on Spotify is a necessary evil: if you’re not on the platform, you might not get noticed or played at all. But if people only engage with your work on that virtual stage, you cannot sustain yourself economically.
Young could be using this moment to launch his own streaming service, on which his politics or chosen content policies could reign supreme. After all, he has for years expressed his frustration with the proliferation of poor-quality, online digital audio that he argues has stripped away the high-fidelity depth of artistic expression.
This would be a good time to tell consumers, or at least music lovers, that by subscribing to the Spotify platform (and arguably streaming services in general), they are choosing the least effective means of supporting musicians, high-quality digital content and original music.
Instead, Young’s Twitter feed has featured praise of Amazon Music and a declaration of love for Apple. Meanwhile, Rogan’s probably sitting back and putting his feet up in the studio, quoting another one of Young’s lyrics, “Don’t feel like Satan, but I am to them.”
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Post by laristotle on Feb 11, 2022 23:51:50 GMT
Neil Young goes nuclear — againYoung has since moved on from Spotify to the banking industry. In a post Monday, he urged his followers to “join me as I move my money away from” the big banks — Chase, Citi, Bank of America, Wells Fargo — in protest over their funding of the fossil fuel industry. Young is said to have a net worth of US$200 million, making him “one of the most financially successful musicians of all time.” All thanks to the freedom he now seems all too willing to deny others.
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Post by Bill h on Feb 14, 2022 23:20:27 GMT
Neil Young goes nuclear — againYoung has since moved on from Spotify to the banking industry. In a post Monday, he urged his followers to “join me as I move my money away from” the big banks — Chase, Citi, Bank of America, Wells Fargo — in protest over their funding of the fossil fuel industry. Young is said to have a net worth of US$200 million, making him “one of the most financially successful musicians of all time.” All thanks to the freedom he now seems all too willing to deny others. In protest of the fossil fuel industry?? Meh, I don’t give a flying shit what Neil Young thinks anyway. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 15, 2022 1:27:53 GMT
Neil Young goes nuclear — againYoung has since moved on from Spotify to the banking industry. In a post Monday, he urged his followers to “join me as I move my money away from” the big banks — Chase, Citi, Bank of America, Wells Fargo — in protest over their funding of the fossil fuel industry. Young is said to have a net worth of US$200 million, making him “one of the most financially successful musicians of all time.” All thanks to the freedom he now seems all too willing to deny others. In protest of the fossil fuel industry?? Meh, I don’t give a flying shit what Neil Young thinks anyway. Me either. Interesting how these people hate the big banks and oil companies but they give the big data companies a pass. And those big data companies are many times larger than any of the legacy "bad guys" |
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Post by Bill h on Feb 15, 2022 3:08:01 GMT
In protest of the fossil fuel industry?? Meh, I don’t give a flying shit what Neil Young thinks anyway. Me either. Interesting how these people hate the big banks and oil companies but they give the big data companies a pass. And those big data companies are many times larger than any of the legacy "bad guys" Young and his 200 mil have been inside the bubble for so long he has absolutely no clue what really makes the world go round. He can live completely green because he can afford it. Anything that threatens the tiny fake world he lives is a problem, in his case, just another rich asshole. |
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Post by laristotle on Feb 15, 2022 11:04:03 GMT
Who Owns the World?: Blackrock and Vanguard.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 15, 2022 13:03:06 GMT
Who Owns the World?: Blackrock and Vanguard. Nowadays I'd say more like Google, Amazon, Apple, etc.... At Amazon's and Google's current market caps (each ~$1.8 trillion) they are each worth more than the entire US oil industry combined. But let's blame the banks and the oil companies and let the people who exploit our data and allow the spread of misinformation and continue to polarize our populations just keep on a-truckin'... |
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Post by laristotle on Feb 15, 2022 13:10:40 GMT
Who Owns the World?: Blackrock and Vanguard. Nowadays I'd say more like Google, Amazon, Apple, etc.... At Amazon's and Google's current market caps (each ~$1.8 trillion) they are each worth more than the entire US oil industry combined. But let's blame the banks and the oil companies and let the people who exploit our data and allow the spread of misinformation and continue to polarize our populations just keep on a-truckin'... I agree, however, Blackrock and Vanguard own majority shares in all that you listed as well. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 15, 2022 13:35:14 GMT
Nowadays I'd say more like Google, Amazon, Apple, etc.... At Amazon's and Google's current market caps (each ~$1.8 trillion) they are each worth more than the entire US oil industry combined. But let's blame the banks and the oil companies and let the people who exploit our data and allow the spread of misinformation and continue to polarize our populations just keep on a-truckin'... I agree, however, Blackrock and Vanguard own majority shares in all that you listed as well. They probably administer a majority of the shares in index funds and ETF's, but those shares are in turn owned by institutions and other investors rather than the companies owning themselves. I guess it depends on whether you feel AUM (assets under management) constitutes as ownership. But regardless I think we're in agreement here! |
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Post by laristotle on Apr 26, 2022 9:02:31 GMT
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