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Post by zontar on Oct 15, 2021 9:30:28 GMT
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Post by Die Bullen on Oct 15, 2021 10:57:37 GMT
My carbon fiber archtop has push pull pots and it is fantastic.
The pickup is a humbucker but was specifically custom made/ designed for split coil use because I don't generally ever play with humbuckers so it really simply sounds like a pure single coil pickup with the pot pulled out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 17:50:07 GMT
I remember buying some 500 meg push-pull pots to switch a coil split on humbuckers. When I got down to installing them, I realized they were too deep. I never bought any more.
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Post by laristotle on Oct 15, 2021 20:17:43 GMT
I had two guitars with p/p split coil. Didn't use it much. Prefer the sound of a bucker. My Gibby bass also has the same setup. I may convert that to series/parallel someday.
I like the idea of the Blower Switch mod in that article. May try that one too.
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Post by zontar on Oct 15, 2021 23:03:43 GMT
I remember buying some 500 meg push-pull pots to switch a coil split on humbuckers. When I got down to installing them, I realized they were too deep. I never bought any more. yeah--something to consider--some much pull pots do need a deeper guitar body. Mine are in a Les Paul--so no problems there.
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Post by Bill h on Oct 21, 2021 19:23:40 GMT
My lp studio has push/pull pots. It’s the only guitar I’ve ever owned with that feature. I haven’t played it enough to really have a feel for them.
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Post by Colchar on Oct 22, 2021 19:05:03 GMT
They do nothing for me, and if I buy a guitar with those pots installed I have them replaced.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 2:55:08 GMT
I never cared much for push-pull pots, even when they worked and fit the guitar. For me, there was always too great a chance that I'd bump them and change the setting or found it too difficult to determine whether they were pulled out or not. I can understand that there are some guitars that an extra switch might be an undesirable alteration, but I'll always choose a switch that I can visually see what position it's in, and is less likely to get bumped inadvertently. About the only reason I can see for using one is when you want a control (such as a tone pot) to perform multiple functions, such as regular treble cut in one position and a Bill Lawrence Q-Filter in the other.
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Post by zontar on Oct 23, 2021 6:34:52 GMT
I never cared much for push-pull pots, even when they worked and fit the guitar. For me, there was always too great a chance that I'd bump them and change the setting or found it too difficult to determine whether they were pulled out or not. I can understand that there are some guitars that an extra switch might be an undesirable alteration, but I'll always choose a switch that I can visually see what position it's in, and is less likely to get bumped inadvertently. About the only reason I can see for using one is when you want a control (such as a tone pot) to perform multiple functions, such as regular treble cut in one position and a Bill Lawrence Q-Filter in the other. the main reason I have push pull pots on my Les Paul is that the tech that did the work of replacing the pickups & some other parts, refused to drill holes in the guitar top for mini toggles, and so he suggested push-pull pots. There wasn't a price difference. But it's cool to have. And it's a way to make mods that are reversible (You can put the regular pots back in, but drilling a hole for a main toggle isn't really reversible) (My LP copy has mini toggles--but it's a toggle & a different tech, and I already had the mini-toggles.)
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Post by markr on Oct 23, 2021 14:26:05 GMT
I have never had a guitar with push/pull pots, my Carvin has a toggle switch fry the factory to split the humbuckers. I like it very much.
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Post by zontar on Oct 23, 2021 22:08:41 GMT
I have never had a guitar with push/pull pots, my Carvin has a toggle switch fry the factory to split the humbuckers. I like it very much. It does the same thing--some people prefer one way, some the other & some don't care, as long as they can switch things. Others don't want the & others are okay whether or to such switches exist--and that's all cool. Push/pull pots are not a deal maker or breaker for me. Neither are other controls for the most part. I have my preferences, but I can work with different options.
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Post by markr on Dec 4, 2021 13:25:41 GMT
I am looking to incorporate push/pull pots into a guitar with P-Rail pups, they have a pickup mount with switches on them. I just don't see them being reliable so I think this is a better option.
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Post by highdeaf on Dec 8, 2021 15:47:19 GMT
I have two guitars, a Tele and Strat, with push-pull pots to split the neck humbucker to sc.
I wouldn't buy or not buy a guitar because of them. They're fine for making an adjustment between songs but I couldn't imagine trying to operate one in the middle of a song, before a solo, whatever. For that reason, they are mostly useless to me.
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Post by Bill h on Dec 10, 2021 3:42:05 GMT
I think push pots are cumbersome, especially if your going to use them while playing something. At least with a switch you don’t risk changing anything else. I know on my studio if the pot is out it’s hard to tell just by looking down on it while playing. They are a great option if you don’t want to drill holes retrofitting a switch on a guitar that does not have a splitting option as was mentioned in one of the posts.
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Post by zontar on Dec 10, 2021 4:00:54 GMT
I think push pots are cumbersome, especially if your going to use them while playing something. At least with a switch you don’t risk changing anything else. I know on my studio if the pot is out it’s hard to tell just by looking down on it while playing. They are a great option if you don’t want to drill holes retrofitting a switch on a guitar that does not have a splitting option as was mentioned in one of the posts. I've never had an issue with them on my LP. But hey--different playing styles & different hands & all that.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 10, 2021 13:07:18 GMT
I think push pots are cumbersome, especially if your going to use them while playing something. At least with a switch you don’t risk changing anything else. I know on my studio if the pot is out it’s hard to tell just by looking down on it while playing. They are a great option if you don’t want to drill holes retrofitting a switch on a guitar that does not have a splitting option as was mentioned in one of the posts. I've never had an issue with them on my LP. But hey--different playing styles & different hands & all that. Me either. When my carbon fiber archtop was built, the luthier didn't wasn't too cut the top to install the pickup so the better option was a shallow humbucker with a coil tap on a push pull knob. The only issue I have at all with that guitar is the volume sensitivity. I usually keep the guitar volume around 7 and it seems for some reason that if I dial even a fraction higher it is too loud and a fraction lower it isn't loud enough. But that had nothing to do with it being a push pull pot
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Post by spellcaster on Dec 11, 2021 6:34:40 GMT
I think push pots are cumbersome, especially if your going to use them while playing something. At least with a switch you don’t risk changing anything else. I know on my studio if the pot is out it’s hard to tell just by looking down on it while playing. They are a great option if you don’t want to drill holes retrofitting a switch on a guitar that does not have a splitting option as was mentioned in one of the posts. You make an interesting point, Bill, and it's something I've noticed - It's almost tough to tell if the pots up or down. If a manufacturer actually wanted build a better mousetrap, they could look for a solution to that.....Even a distinctively coloured ring nut to tighten the volume pot in place, so you could see looking down if the pot was pulled up and it was visible.
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Post by zontar on Dec 11, 2021 19:07:02 GMT
It will be different for different persons & different guitars--but on my Les Paul, because of my size & shape--and the size & shape of the guitar--the location of my head & the push pull knobs it's obvious too me if the pot is up or down.
But I can see how for some people your eyes are at a different angle because you are taller or shorter or your eyes are not quite in the same place on your head that mine are--so even if you play my Les Paul, you get a different angle--and it might not be obvious.
Same if I were to try that with different guitar, maybe I can't tell for sure.
SO many variables, and as always--not every guitar suits every person.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 11, 2021 21:26:31 GMT
It will be different for different persons & different guitars--but on my Les Paul, because of my size & shape--and the size & shape of the guitar-- the location of my head & the push pull knobs it's obvious too me if the pot is up or down.
But I can see how for some people your eyes are at a different angle because you are taller or shorter or your eyes are not quite in the same place on your head that mine are--so even if you play my Les Paul, you get a different angle--and it might not be obvious. Same if I were to try that with different guitar, maybe I can't tell for sure. SO many variables, and as always--not every guitar suits every person. Same here. I've accidentally hit my Strat's pu switch more times than I care to say- never done that with a push pull Knob- and I always know when it is pulled
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Post by highdeaf on Dec 13, 2021 17:23:50 GMT
On my strat, because the knob is 'decked' to the pickguard (in the down position), I can easily see if it is up or down. But a combination of that and the slope of the knob also makes it damn hard to pull it up if it is down. So double-edged sword.
The tele is slightly harder to see and slightly easier to operate.
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Post by Bill h on Dec 13, 2021 20:54:44 GMT
It will be different for different persons & different guitars--but on my Les Paul, because of my size & shape--and the size & shape of the guitar-- the location of my head & the push pull knobs it's obvious too me if the pot is up or down.
But I can see how for some people your eyes are at a different angle because you are taller or shorter or your eyes are not quite in the same place on your head that mine are--so even if you play my Les Paul, you get a different angle--and it might not be obvious. Same if I were to try that with different guitar, maybe I can't tell for sure. SO many variables, and as always--not every guitar suits every person. Same here. I've accidentally hit my Strat's pu switch more times than I care to say- never done that with a push pull Knob- and I always know when it is pulled If I had a nickel for every time I hit that damn p/u switch on my strat..........
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 13, 2021 22:28:03 GMT
Same here. I've accidentally hit my Strat's pu switch more times than I care to say- never done that with a push pull Knob- and I always know when it is pulled If I had a nickel for every time I hit that damn p/u switch on my strat.......... It is especially annoying because I actually USE the neck pickup on my strat so when I hit it in a song it basically goes from bassy and mellow to super trebly- it is pretty obvious
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Post by infant on Dec 15, 2021 3:55:44 GMT
I’ve never had a problem accidentally hitting the switch on any guitar. Then again, I don’t strum hard like Springsteen but rather rest my wrist on the bridge and strum from there. I don’t have any push pull pots on any of my guitars although I was toying with the thought of putting a middle pickup on my Tele and using a push pull pot to activate it. It’s already been routed for one.
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Post by zontar on Dec 19, 2021 0:13:54 GMT
If I had a nickel for every time I hit that damn p/u switch on my strat.......... It is especially annoying because I actually USE the neck pickup on my strat so when I hit it in a song it basically goes from bassy and mellow to super trebly- it is pretty obvious I don't own a Strat, but my favourite settings are neck & neck + middle
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Post by Bill h on Dec 25, 2021 3:34:45 GMT
It is especially annoying because I actually USE the neck pickup on my strat so when I hit it in a song it basically goes from bassy and mellow to super trebly- it is pretty obvious I don't own a Strat, but my favourite settings are neck & neck + middle Bridge/middle for me mostly.
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Post by spellcaster on Dec 25, 2021 3:43:02 GMT
I don't own a Strat, but my favourite settings are neck & neck + middle Bridge/middle for me mostly. Since we're talking about Strat pickup settings....My go-to Strat, which has Fender American Standard pickups, is set up with 13 possible pickup combinations, and my favourite setting is neck plus middle in series.
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Post by zontar on Dec 28, 2021 20:16:08 GMT
Bridge/middle for me mostly. Since we're talking about Strat pickup settings....My go-to Strat, which has Fender American Standard pickups, is set up with 13 possible pickup combinations, and my favourite setting is neck plus middle in series. Almost BC Rich Strat. (They once made guitars with all sorts of switches & I played a friend's bass and could never figure out what they all didi. Maybe they still make some that way. Although they do make ones with straight forward volume/tone controls & regular pickup selector.
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