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Post by infant on Oct 7, 2021 3:52:57 GMT
I was thinking of swapping the tuners on my new PRS to lockers. As a guy who has played Fenders with vintage style tuners with “safe-t-posts”, I hate changing strings on guitars with regular tuners. I can change strings on a Fender in about 5 minutes. My Gibsons and acoustics take much longer and I still screw up the windings on the posts.
So I’m thinking of putting locking tuners on the PRS and maybe my ES 137. I changed out the tuners on my Melody Maker with some Grover’s with the Safe-T-posts and although they still work well, string changes are a bit more difficult than on Fenders due to raked back headstock.
So does anyone else use locking tuners on their non-trem guitars?
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Post by johnreardon on Oct 7, 2021 10:25:39 GMT
I had some on the PRS guitars I had, but didn't really like them that much. I prefer to use my old method of attaching strings. I always stretch them a lot, so rarely have any tuning issues. My only guitar that does occasionally need tweaking is the Guild that has a Bigsby.
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Post by Die Bullen on Oct 7, 2021 10:50:47 GMT
My carbon fibre archtop has locking tuners (and no tremolo). It does simplify the process somewhat as instead of fighting to get the string from not leaving the tuning head and floating bridge, I only have to worry about the bridge.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 4:23:55 GMT
I've used locking tuners on every guitar I've owned or built for about 15 years. The partscasters that wwere most important to me all got Steinberger tuners, not so much because they were locking tuners, but because they were 40:1 gearless tuners that hold tune better than anything else on the market. Using lockers became a habit after that, so the rest of my guitars got high quality locking tuners such as Sperzels and Schaller/Fenders. The only non-lockers I've used were Gotoh SD-91's and they were the worst unadulterated pieces of shit I've ever put on a guitar. I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy.
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Post by laristotle on Oct 8, 2021 11:45:05 GMT
I use the mandolin method to string up my guitars. They never slip.  |
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Post by Die Bullen on Oct 8, 2021 11:48:11 GMT
I use the mandolin method to string up my guitars. They never slip. I do that when I am not in a rush and forget! |
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Post by zontar on Oct 9, 2021 7:51:41 GMT
I've never used locking tuners, but I am interested in trying them out at some point.
Sounds like they make string changes quicker & easier--and I can get behind that (Recently changing 27 strings on 3 instruments.)
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Post by Bill h on Oct 11, 2021 23:13:01 GMT
I’ve had the same locking tuners on my strat for over 20 years. Never had a problem with them. I always thought they would wear out at some point but they still work great.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 5:32:00 GMT
I'd guess that even if you don't see the need to use lockers as a tuning aid, they'd still be an advantage if you had to do a fast string change during a gig. About the only drawback I could see is that they might be slightly heavier than regular machine heads, but probably not enough to be an issue, unless you own an SG that's precariously balanced.
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Post by johnreardon on Oct 12, 2021 7:59:35 GMT
I'd guess that even if you don't see the need to use lockers as a tuning aid, they'd still be an advantage if you had to do a fast string change during a gig. About the only drawback I could see is that they might be slightly heavier than regular machine heads, but probably not enough to be an issue, unless you own an SG that's precariously balanced. I never had much of an issue in the 60s. Just sat down and changed the string 
I wouldn't see locking tuners as a tuning aid, strings still need to be stretched. All they do is perhaps save a bit of time .
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Post by Bill h on Oct 12, 2021 18:40:47 GMT
I'd guess that even if you don't see the need to use lockers as a tuning aid, they'd still be an advantage if you had to do a fast string change during a gig. About the only drawback I could see is that they might be slightly heavier than regular machine heads, but probably not enough to be an issue, unless you own an SG that's precariously balanced. I never had much of an issue in the 60s. Just sat down and changed the string
I wouldn't see locking tuners as a tuning aid, strings still need to be stretched. All they do is perhaps save a bit of time .
Locking tuners aren’t much of a tuning aid but does make stringing a little quicker. The biggest advantage is being able to lock strings down without replacing the tremolo system, especially on a strat. Before I put them on my strat I had tuning issues if I used the bar to aggressively. I had the nut replaced to, works great. |
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Post by zontar on Oct 13, 2021 6:09:09 GMT
It's a personal thing, I'd say
Some people love them, some don't, and some don't see the point.
I see the point, but don't have any--and would be open to trying them--but probably only on buying a new/new to me guitar or if I needed to replace them on one of my guitars.
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