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Post by Die Bullen on Jul 13, 2021 12:53:21 GMT
An interesting exchange occurred at band rehearsal yesterday. Our trombone player (who does at least sort of play guitar), asked me why I never let him play my guitars and he wanted to know if I didn't let ANYONE touch them or just him. I told him that most instrumentalists don't let other people mess with their stuff. You just try touching a drummer's cymbals and see what he does. He said it is different with guitars because they are "social" instruments that people pass around the campfire.
I don't know about you guys but I am NOT going to pass my Guild X-500 or any of my good guitars around a campfire. I guess I'd feel differently if I had a $100 acoustic that I didn't care about.
What do you guys think on this topic?
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Post by laristotle on Jul 13, 2021 14:45:42 GMT
I still have a coupla' cheapos in my coral, just for that reason. ie; open jams and such.
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Post by Colchar on Jul 13, 2021 17:12:45 GMT
Depends on the situation. Another guitar player who I know? Go ahead. Someone in a music store who is just starting out? OK. Some random person? Leave my shit alone.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jul 13, 2021 18:07:46 GMT
A few years back I used to play in a big band that rehearsed in a music school. I had plenty of amps so I simply left my Peavey Classic 30 there hidden under a table. The next time I went to rehearsal the knobs were all changed and the volume and gain were practically pegged. I was absolutely enraged- I felt violated. I'm really careful with my amps and the idea of some kid cranking my amp made my blood boil. Needless to say I never left the amp there again after that day.
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Post by Bill h on Jul 13, 2021 20:42:48 GMT
A few years back I used to play in a big band that rehearsed in a music school. I had plenty of amps so I simply left my Peavey Classic 30 there hidden under a table. The next time I went to rehearsal the knobs were all changed and the volume and gain were practically pegged. I was absolutely enraged- I felt violated. I'm really careful with my amps and the idea of some kid cranking my amp made my blood boil. Needless to say I never left the amp there again after that day. At band practice if another member wants to pick up my guitar itβs not a big deal to me, Iβm right there in the room anyway. Outside of that, if I donβt know ya, your not playing on my stuff.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jul 13, 2021 20:51:34 GMT
A few years back I used to play in a big band that rehearsed in a music school. I had plenty of amps so I simply left my Peavey Classic 30 there hidden under a table. The next time I went to rehearsal the knobs were all changed and the volume and gain were practically pegged. I was absolutely enraged- I felt violated. I'm really careful with my amps and the idea of some kid cranking my amp made my blood boil. Needless to say I never left the amp there again after that day. At band practice if another member wants to pick up my guitar itβs not a big deal to me, Iβm right there in the room anyway. Outside of that, if I donβt know ya, your not playing on my stuff. If I know a guy is a really serious player, I will usually let him tocgh my stuff. If I am not sure I will rush it back into the case. I remember a couple years ago at one gig the trombone player grabbed my guitar off the stand and started strumming- if looks could kill, he'd be lying in a ditch. That's why he won't dare touch them now.
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Post by allthumbs56 on Jul 14, 2021 1:22:46 GMT
I'm always being approached at gigs by people who either want to "sit in", play the drums, guitar, whatever. A lot of times we'll let the person sing a song but it has to be someone I know and trust to use one of my guitars.
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Post by infant on Jul 14, 2021 2:52:49 GMT
Unless I know the guy, never. Even if I know him, I wonβt during a gig. After the gig, no problem
When I worked at TRW, a coworker and I got into building guitars. Whenever we finished one of our projects, weβd bring it to work to show the other. There was another guitar player in our office and one day when I brought in my completed hard tail Strat, he came to look at it and I let him try it out. When I got home that night, I went to play the guitar and the back of the neck felt all dirty and the brand new set of strings were DEAD! I found out later that this guy had a problem in that his hands were always clammy /sweaty. His sweat was also very corrosive. He destroyed a brand new set of strings in 5 minutes! This is why no one will touch my guitar until the gig is over. I canβt afford to have someone do something detrimental to my guitar while Iβm still on the gig.
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Post by Bill h on Jul 14, 2021 3:03:53 GMT
Not at gigs...ever.
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Post by johnreardon on Jul 14, 2021 7:25:14 GMT
Definitely unless it's an old friend that we have played with before. With us, it's usually an old drummer, not a guitarist
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Post by johnreardon on Jul 14, 2021 7:29:07 GMT
I don't mind somebody using my amp at jams, like the one I'm going to tonight. Only taking a VoxAC4TV, so they're not going to cause mayhem. I never let anybody play my guitar through the amps at gigs. I have let people, particularly youngsters at jams, come up and have a look and maybe strum it.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jul 14, 2021 11:11:02 GMT
I'm always being approached at gigs by people who either want to "sit in", play the drums, guitar, whatever. A lot of times we'll let the person sing a song but it has to be someone I know and trust to use one of my guitars. I have a few stories about this too. Maybe time for a "sit in " thread
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Post by laristotle on Jul 14, 2021 15:12:04 GMT
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Post by infant on Jul 14, 2021 15:18:14 GMT
I want one!!!
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Post by johnreardon on Jul 14, 2021 16:11:27 GMT
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Post by Die Bullen on Jul 14, 2021 18:28:08 GMT
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Post by Bill h on Jul 14, 2021 20:33:30 GMT
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Post by Kerry Brown on Jul 14, 2021 23:49:49 GMT
I actually enjoy it when other people play my gear. It gives me an idea of good or bad it can sound. It is bard to critique your tone when you are the player. As long as they are not drunk I will pretty much let anyone play my gear.
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Post by highdeaf on Jul 16, 2021 17:53:27 GMT
Depends so much on other factors. The person wanting to play it. The instrument in question. The situation (jam, gig, ?).
The crux of the issue to me is, did they at least ask you first. They should have the option to say no. Very bad etiquette IMO to just grab someone's instrument and start playing. Or plugging into an amp and start twiddling (at least let me take a pic of the controls first so I can get back to square 1.
Many years ago, my g/f and I went to a house party. She had her fairly new 800-series Taylor (I had some moderately priced jamming guitar). We put our instruments, in cases, in the spare room along with a half dozen others. Hung out before anyone started playing. After 30 minutes or so, someone came walking out of the spare room carrying an 800-series Taylor exactly like my g/f's. Well, more than exactly like - it was her guitar. I was flabbergasted. I politely asked for it and gave it to her, making it like I was happy he got it out for her. And then went and got my own. Played for a bit and then left. Never, ever went back to that place again. Neanderthals.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jul 16, 2021 18:11:59 GMT
Depends so much on other factors. The person wanting to play it. The instrument in question. The situation (jam, gig, ?). The crux of the issue to me is, did they at least ask you first. They should have the option to say no. Very bad etiquette IMO to just grab someone's instrument and start playing. Or plugging into an amp and start twiddling (at least let me take a pic of the controls first so I can get back to square 1. Many years ago, my g/f and I went to a house party. She had her fairly new 800-series Taylor (I had some moderately priced jamming guitar). We put our instruments, in cases, in the spare room along with a half dozen others. Hung out before anyone started playing. After 30 minutes or so, someone came walking out of the spare room carrying an 800-series Taylor exactly like my g/f's. Well, more than exactly like - it was her guitar. I was flabbergasted. I politely asked for it and gave it to her, making it like I was happy he got it out for her. And then went and got my own. Played for a bit and then left. Never, ever went back to that place again. Neanderthals. Yeah that's just plain wrong to open people's cases and get their gear out. Mind you, someone grabbing it off your stand isn't much better...
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Post by zontar on Jul 17, 2021 22:27:09 GMT
Asking first is key.
there are those I know I will let play any of my gear. And there are those I know that I will not.
If I don't know you? Probably not.
Also I was once playing somebody else's Strat (I had asked & he said yes) and someone else asked if he could play it. He seemed a bit annoyed when I said it wasn't mine, so I couldn't say -and he should ask the owner.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 6:39:38 GMT
I'd probably be very protective about who I might let play my personal Strat, but in a band situation, it's likely to be my bass gear, which I'd normally be okay with somebody else playing.
One of the things I used to do years ago is take my finished partscaster guitars to band practice and ask somebody to play a couple of songs on them so I'd get a chance to hear them. I believe in the "tone is in the fingers" concept and think my guitars are likely to sound different having somebody else play them.
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Post by zontar on Aug 6, 2021 23:25:28 GMT
I'd probably be very protective about who I might let play my personal Strat, but in a band situation, it's likely to be my bass gear, which I'd normally be okay with somebody else playing. Mostly playing fretless these days some people will ask, then decline when they see it's a fretless. Although some are curious to try it.
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