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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 1:01:46 GMT
I just got a response on the pedal trade ad I've been running for quite a while. I've been wanting another chorus pedal to replace the Daphon unit that's dead on my board (Not it's fault...I killed it). Anyway the guy wants to trade a new-in-box TC Electronics Afterglow chorus pedal for my BOSS DS-1 distortion pedal. I have to drive to Langford, just this side of Victoria, so it's a couple of hours driving, but I'm willing to do that and he said he'll pay for the gas. I don't know much about TC Electronics, but apparently the pedal sounds around 60.00. so I assume an entry-level item. That's okay....I haven't used the distortion pedal in probably five years, and a new toy might be just the thing to revitalize my urge to play.
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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 26, 2021 1:16:17 GMT
I just got a response on the pedal trade ad I've been running for quite a while. I've been wanting another chorus pedal to replace the Daphon unit that's dead on my board (Not it's fault...I killed it). Anyway the guy wants to trade a new-in-box TC Electronics Afterglow chorus pedal for my BOSS DS-1 distortion pedal. I have to drive to Langford, just this side of Victoria, so it's a couple of hours driving, but I'm willing to do that and he said he'll pay for the gas. I don't know much about TC Electronics, but apparently the pedal sounds around 60.00. so I assume an entry-level item. That's okay....I haven't used the distortion pedal in probably five years, and a new toy might be just the thing to revitalize my urge to play.
Cool, keep us updated!
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Post by infant on Apr 26, 2021 1:21:02 GMT
I think it’s a fair trade. TC electronics make some decent pedals. Let us know how it turns out.
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Post by Sinster on Apr 26, 2021 1:30:02 GMT
TC makes some good stuff. Paul Gilbert loves their MojoMojo pedal.
I wonder why they are only selling them at GC?
Not sure if you knew this, but TC is owned by Behringer.
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Post by zontar on Apr 26, 2021 2:34:29 GMT
I wouldn’t make the trade as is L&M has the TC pedal for $53 & the DS1 for $80 Although would go for less used
As for the Behrenger connection- the series that Chorus pedal is from are reboxed Behringer pedals
Is your DS1 an older one? If it’s made in Japan you could buy at least 2 or 3 of those chorus pedals for what you could get for the DS1 (or more) If it’s more recent it’s still not an even trade
Still it’s up to you, but I wouldn’t make that trade
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 4:25:55 GMT
I haven't peeled the velcro off the bottom of the DS-1, but I'm fairly sure it won't be a Japanese one....I bought it used for 50.00 in a pawnshop run by a musician and I'm sure he'd have been asking a lot more if it was anything special.
I've had absolutely no interest in the DS-1 after three months of advertising it, so I'm happy to have anybody asking about trading. I'm not thrilled to hear that Behringer's involved, but at least it's a very different looking pedal from the BOSS-clone-looking Behringer Flanger that I had so much grief with. I think I'll probably end up making the deal.
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Post by infant on Apr 26, 2021 4:29:21 GMT
I wouldn’t make the trade as is L&M has the TC pedal for $53 & the DS1 for $80 Although would go for less used As for the Behrenger connection- the series that Chorus pedal is from are reboxed Behringer pedals Is your DS1 an older one? If it’s made in Japan you could buy at least 2 or 3 of those chorus pedals for what you could get for the DS1 (or more) If it’s more recent it’s still not an even trade Still it’s up to you, but I wouldn’t make that trade I didn't even think of the Japanese version of the pedal. That's a good point. Any Japanese a Boss or Ibanez pedals are worth some big bucks. My son bought a DS1 at L&M on sale for $39 new about 7 or 8 years ago. That's why I thought the deal was fair.
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Post by Sinster on Apr 26, 2021 11:16:51 GMT
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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 26, 2021 11:46:10 GMT
I wouldn’t make the trade as is L&M has the TC pedal for $53 & the DS1 for $80 Although would go for less used As for the Behrenger connection- the series that Chorus pedal is from are reboxed Behringer pedals Is your DS1 an older one? If it’s made in Japan you could buy at least 2 or 3 of those chorus pedals for what you could get for the DS1 (or more) If it’s more recent it’s still not an even trade Still it’s up to you, but I wouldn’t make that trade I didn't even think of the Japanese version of the pedal. That's a good point. Any Japanese a Boss or Ibanez pedals are worth some big bucks. My son bought a DS1 at L&M on sale for $39 new about 7 or 8 years ago. That's why I thought the deal was fair. Definitely worth checking to see if it is Japanese made before sealing the deal
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Post by Sinster on Apr 26, 2021 14:22:09 GMT
I didn't even think of the Japanese version of the pedal. That's a good point. Any Japanese a Boss or Ibanez pedals are worth some big bucks. My son bought a DS1 at L&M on sale for $39 new about 7 or 8 years ago. That's why I thought the deal was fair. Definitely worth checking to see if it is Japanese made before sealing the deal I agree.. especially willing to pay for you gas. Why would someone go that far for a trade.
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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 26, 2021 14:31:27 GMT
Definitely worth checking to see if it is Japanese made before sealing the deal I agree.. especially willing to pay for you gas. Why would someone go that far for a trade. Especially in Canada where gas is double the price of here in the US
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 1:46:33 GMT
I didn't even think of the Japanese version of the pedal. That's a good point. Any Japanese a Boss or Ibanez pedals are worth some big bucks. My son bought a DS1 at L&M on sale for $39 new about 7 or 8 years ago. That's why I thought the deal was fair. Definitely worth checking to see if it is Japanese made before sealing the deal Just checked, and this SD-1 was manufactured in Taiwan. I'm happy enough to be getting rid of it....I never liked the way it sounded and I haven't used it in years.
The gas is negligible....I bought a tank of gas in January and threw 20.00 in the tank in mid-March. There's still enough left to drive to Langford and make the deal. This Micra uses less gas than anything I've ever driven.
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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 27, 2021 11:12:20 GMT
Definitely worth checking to see if it is Japanese made before sealing the deal Just checked, and this SD-1 was manufactured in Taiwan. I'm happy enough to be getting rid of it....I never liked the way it sounded and I haven't used it in years.
The gas is negligible....I bought a tank of gas in January and threw 20.00 in the tank in mid-March. There's still enough left to drive to Langford and make the deal. This Micra uses less gas than anything I've ever driven.
Well then, the die is cast!
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Post by zontar on Apr 27, 2021 19:20:33 GMT
Definitely worth checking to see if it is Japanese made before sealing the deal Just checked, and this SD-1 was manufactured in Taiwan. I'm happy enough to be getting rid of it....I never liked the way it sounded and I haven't used it in years.
The gas is negligible....I bought a tank of gas in January and threw 20.00 in the tank in mid-March. There's still enough left to drive to Langford and make the deal. This Micra uses less gas than anything I've ever driven.
If it helps you-sure It just seems off to me And I would ask for money in addition to the pedal if I went for it Especially if he is offering gas money
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 3:09:33 GMT
I think he was offering gas money to induce me to be the one doing the driving....He mentioned being really busy with school and not having time to come to me.
I'm feeling a certain regret at having ever said anything about this. I was elated to have someone, after three months, finally showing some interest in the trade. However, the reaction here has really taken the edge off the pleasure I was feeling about getting a new piece of gear for the first time in a couple of years. It probably won't be something I'll talk about again.
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Post by zontar on Apr 28, 2021 3:59:28 GMT
I think he was offering gas money to induce me to be the one doing the driving....He mentioned being really busy with school and not having time to come to me. I'm feeling a certain regret at having ever said anything about this. I was elated to have someone, after three months, finally showing some interest in the trade. However, the reaction here has really taken the edge off the pleasure I was feeling about getting a new piece of gear for the first time in a couple of years. It probably won't be something I'll talk about again. Hey, don't mind us. Gear is a personal thing--I'm sure there's gear each of you haha that I would have no use for, and other gear I'd love to have--and I'm sure I have gear others here wouldn't be into. It's your gear, your money, your time, etc. My intent is never to talk someone out of getting gear--just offering up my view--and yours will most likely vary. I'm still interested in hearing about the acquisitions that happen among members here.
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Post by infant on Apr 28, 2021 4:02:00 GMT
I think he was offering gas money to induce me to be the one doing the driving....He mentioned being really busy with school and not having time to come to me. I'm feeling a certain regret at having ever said anything about this. I was elated to have someone, after three months, finally showing some interest in the trade. However, the reaction here has really taken the edge off the pleasure I was feeling about getting a new piece of gear for the first time in a couple of years. It probably won't be something I'll talk about again. I still think it's a good trade. Hey, if he throws in $10-15 for gas, your still okay. It would be good if you can at least try the other pedal before you seal the deal, especially after driving all that way. the thing is this...you aren't using the pedal so get what you can for it. The other guy isn't using his pedal. You are both sitting on equipment that neither of you want. Just go for it. The price difference between the two pedals is nothing really. Now if one was worth $150 new and the other one $50, then I would call it unfair but I wouldn't call your deal unfair. Go for it
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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 28, 2021 11:21:06 GMT
I think he was offering gas money to induce me to be the one doing the driving....He mentioned being really busy with school and not having time to come to me. I'm feeling a certain regret at having ever said anything about this. I was elated to have someone, after three months, finally showing some interest in the trade. However, the reaction here has really taken the edge off the pleasure I was feeling about getting a new piece of gear for the first time in a couple of years. It probably won't be something I'll talk about again. I still think it's a good trade. Hey, if he throws in $10-15 for gas, your still okay. It would be good if you can at least try the other pedal before you seal the deal, especially after driving all that way. the thing is this...you aren't using the pedal so get what you can for it. The other guy isn't using his pedal. You are both sitting on equipment that neither of you want. Just go for it. The price difference between the two pedals is nothing really. Now if one was worth $150 new and the other one $50, then I would call it unfair but I wouldn't call your deal unfair. Go for it I tend to agree. And Spellcaster- accept his offer of paying gas money. That extra $10-15 is gravy on top of the deal for you- and let's not forget the time it will take you to drive out there and back...
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Post by Sinster on Apr 28, 2021 14:38:39 GMT
I think he was offering gas money to induce me to be the one doing the driving....He mentioned being really busy with school and not having time to come to me. I'm feeling a certain regret at having ever said anything about this. I was elated to have someone, after three months, finally showing some interest in the trade. However, the reaction here has really taken the edge off the pleasure I was feeling about getting a new piece of gear for the first time in a couple of years. It probably won't be something I'll talk about again. I apologize, my intentions where not to deter you or piss in your Wheaties. Just interjecting my opinion and wanted to make sure you had information about possibility having a higher value pedal. Wouldn't wanted you to trade a 5k pedal for a sub 100.00.
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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 28, 2021 15:29:11 GMT
I think he was offering gas money to induce me to be the one doing the driving....He mentioned being really busy with school and not having time to come to me. I'm feeling a certain regret at having ever said anything about this. I was elated to have someone, after three months, finally showing some interest in the trade. However, the reaction here has really taken the edge off the pleasure I was feeling about getting a new piece of gear for the first time in a couple of years. It probably won't be something I'll talk about again. I'm sure nobody is trying to dissuade you of doing anything. Ask 5 or 6 people their opinion and you will get 5 or 6 different ones! Just make your trade and be happy with the outcome!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 22:37:53 GMT
Like so many of the pedals in today's market, this one's stated to be true bypass. And, like the rest, I can still hear a difference when my guitar signal is routed through the pedal, even if it's off.
I call BS on this stuff about true bypass. There is an audible difference.
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Post by zontar on May 1, 2021 22:44:58 GMT
Like so many of the pedals in today's market, this one's stated to be true bypass. And, like the rest, I can still hear a difference when my guitar signal is routed through the pedal, even if it's off. I call BS on this stuff about true bypass. There is an audible difference. True Bypass does affect things--and there are pros & cons... So it depends on your other pedals & signal path--and what you're going for. Personally I'm not concerned either way whether a pedal is true bypass or not. Some people are--and some of those have to buy true bypass only-and others avoid them. The main thing is to have buffer or a pedal with a buffer built in at or near the start of your chain. (Some pedals have an internal switch to be buffered or not) So again--go for what you like. Either way--or both.
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Post by zontar on May 1, 2021 22:58:34 GMT
No snark intended--i am just amused by this.
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Post by Die Bullen on May 1, 2021 23:33:10 GMT
Like so many of the pedals in today's market, this one's stated to be true bypass. And, like the rest, I can still hear a difference when my guitar signal is routed through the pedal, even if it's off. I call BS on this stuff about true bypass. There is an audible difference. Have you made the trade yet?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 0:22:37 GMT
Like so many of the pedals in today's market, this one's stated to be true bypass. And, like the rest, I can still hear a difference when my guitar signal is routed through the pedal, even if it's off. I call BS on this stuff about true bypass. There is an audible difference. Have you made the trade yet? Yes
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Post by Die Bullen on May 2, 2021 0:47:12 GMT
Have you made the trade yet? Yes Yeah I just read it on the other thread- congratulations.,
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Post by infant on May 2, 2021 2:18:58 GMT
Like so many of the pedals in today's market, this one's stated to be true bypass. And, like the rest, I can still hear a difference when my guitar signal is routed through the pedal, even if it's off. I call BS on this stuff about true bypass. There is an audible difference. Really? I’ve never noticed one unless you are hearing capacitance from doubling your cable length. I’ve built a few DIY clones that were true bypass and if you were to follow the circuit, you would see that when the pedal is off, the signal does not go to the PCB but rather it goes directly to the output jack of the pedal. Then again, your hearing may be better than mine. 😎
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 3:28:59 GMT
I don't know if I can claim better hearing, but there definitely is a difference. To be honest, with some of the lesser amplifiers I've owned, I couldn't hear it, but since I've owned the Twin Reverb, I can. Your point about cable capacitance is interesting. I will point out that I'm a throwback that's used a 30 foot coiled cord for years, and I've read numerous times that coiled cords add a lot of cable capacitance. It still sounds better when I plug my Strat into the coiled cable and direct into my Twin.
I notice a difference any time I have something inline between the guitar and amp. Even my Peterson StroboFlip tuner adds something unpleasant when I have it in line, so my standard practice is to plug the guitar straight into the amp, and use the second jack in that channel to feed a signal to the tuner. (It also has the advantage of allowing silent tuning, just by flipping the amp onto standby)
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