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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 16, 2021 12:48:12 GMT
Last night I plugged my strat into my Pignose 40GV (which is bright) through the Henrickson cab (which is dark). Generally this combination sounds pretty good with an archtop as the dark cab tames the very bright amp, but adding my Strat to the equation made it sound flat and lifeless.
Of course you could simply say "Pignose stinks", but it isn't the first time that I've plugged a particular guitar into an amp (head or combo- doesn't matter) and it simply seemed like the amp and guitar did not like each other.
Anyone else ever seen this? I've seen it in quite a few cases and I've always wondered exactly why it happens.
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Post by johnreardon on Apr 16, 2021 13:15:07 GMT
I've never really come across it. Yes single coil guitars like Strats or Teles, sound different in amps I've used, but none sounded dull and lifeless. They just sound sharper, which I can tame using amp EQ or guitar tone
I don't use pedals, so you would think I'd notice more, but I never have.
Not used the amp or cab you mention.
Were you using pedals?
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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 16, 2021 13:26:07 GMT
I've never really come across it. Yes single coil guitars like Strats or Teles, sound different in amps I've used, but none sounded dull and lifeless. They just sound sharper, which I can tame using amp EQ or guitar tone I don't use pedals, so you would think I'd notice more, but I never have. Not used the amp or cab you mention. Were you using pedals? No, I never use pedals. It wasn't just this combination however. Some guitars just seem to sound better (or worse) in certain amps to me. |
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Post by johnreardon on Apr 16, 2021 13:45:10 GMT
I've never really come across it. Yes single coil guitars like Strats or Teles, sound different in amps I've used, but none sounded dull and lifeless. They just sound sharper, which I can tame using amp EQ or guitar tone I don't use pedals, so you would think I'd notice more, but I never have. Not used the amp or cab you mention. Were you using pedals? No, I never use pedals. It wasn't just this combination however. Some guitars just seem to sound better (or worse) in certain amps to me. It's probably down to our ears & preference.
I much prefer humbucker guitars, mainly Les Pauls and when gigging, I set amp EQ up for them. If I switch to my Trussart, which is my only single coil guitar, I can get away with just using guitar tone. It doesn't sound flat, in fact the opposite, maybe a touch too sharp
Every amp I have bought have been aimed at the guitars I would use with them. When buying in shops, I always used a Les Paul, either one I took in or a shop one. To be honest, I never bothered trying them with other guitars.
Perhaps I've been lucky
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Post by zontar on Apr 17, 2021 2:54:56 GMT
I've never had an issue with that--may have to adjust the settings when switching to a single coil guitar--but it's never been an issue with an amp not liking a guitar.
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Post by Sgt Rock on Apr 17, 2021 4:55:26 GMT
I have a Crate G60 solid state amp that I used with my guitars. one day I plugged my Les Paul Deluxe into the Crate. the mini-humbuckers were too "hot" for the solid state amp. so, once I plugged into my old Gibson tube amp, it calmed the Les Paul down. so, I now use my old tube amps for all of my guitars.
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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 17, 2021 14:08:03 GMT
Ironically the pignose is actually a tube amp, which is what I usually use except the new gigging amp, which is a ss
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Post by zontar on Apr 18, 2021 1:11:31 GMT
Sure, some amps match better with one guitar over another, but I've never had an amp that wasn't good for multiple guitars.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 5:02:19 GMT
I've been pondering this, and I believe there'll be people that notice big differences with different guitars into one amp. I don't know if I can perceive a lot of change with guitars but I absolutely agree using multiple basses into bass amps. My old Peavey stack got along well with all my basses, but the little Fender Rumple 150 head, even with the 2x15" JBL K140's, makes my violin bass blurry sounding, the small Tel partscaster bass sounds fine...really articulate, but the full-size Telecaster bass sounds thin. I only played using the Ampeg SVT-6PRO one night at practice, but it seemed to make everything too bass-boomy.
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Post by Die Bullen on Apr 18, 2021 12:49:19 GMT
I've noticed it with a few different combinations through the years. Now mind you, this is not something I see all the time with lots of guitars. I'm going to FYI something wIth the pignose settings today, I'm curious about something...
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Post by george on Jul 3, 2021 16:48:06 GMT
I likely just comes down to preferences but I have 3 main combo amps that I use and I tend to regard them as this guitar doesn't like that amp etc. This is based on a short cable with no pedals; although I do use pedals sometimes.
Even with similar guitars like a 70th Ann Broadcaster and a Mag 7 Telecaster I notice that one is better than the other with a particular amp. Bridge pickup on the Broadcaster is about 9.5 and the Tele bridge is a bit over 7 so that could do it I suppose but the differences are there. My Firebird only likes the Pro Jr Tweed for some reason. If this was all going through a cranked stage rig in a hall or somewhere it'd would just get EQ'd and dialed in but at home or a small rehersal space it's noticeable.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jul 3, 2021 19:37:37 GMT
I likely just comes down to preferences but I have 3 main combo amps that I use and I tend to regard them as this guitar doesn't like that amp etc. This is based on a short cable with no pedals; although I do use pedals sometimes. Even with similar guitars like a 70th Ann Broadcaster and a Mag 7 Telecaster I notice that one is better than the other with a particular amp. Bridge pickup on the Broadcaster is about 9.5 and the Tele bridge is a bit over 7 so that could do it I suppose but the differences are there. My Firebird only likes the Pro Jr Tweed for some reason. If this was all going through a cranked stage rig in a hall or somewhere it'd would just get EQ'd and dialed in but at home or a small rehersal space it's noticeable. Thanks for coming to my rescue on this one- I thought I was the only one who felt this way! |
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Post by highdeaf on Jul 5, 2021 14:32:23 GMT
I think it's just personal preference more than x amp doesn't with with x guitar. I'm also one of those that thinks the tone is largely in our fingers and not just the gear we use.
I personally do not like when I play a Strat into a Marshall. Give me an LP or 335 and all of the sudden, I get the tones I expect to get from that amp. But I would never tell Richie Blackmore or Robin Trower or Dave Gilmour (I know, I know ..... Hiwatt) that their tone ain't workin' for them.
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Post by Bill h on Jul 10, 2021 17:04:59 GMT
I think it's just personal preference more than x amp doesn't with with x guitar. I'm also one of those that thinks the tone is largely in our fingers and not just the gear we use. I personally do not like when I play a Strat into a Marshall. Give me an LP or 335 and all of the sudden, I get the tones I expect to get from that amp. But I would never tell Richie Blackmore or Robin Trower or Dave Gilmour (I know, I know ..... Hiwatt) that their tone ain't workin' for them. I agree on the strat/marshall thing. I had a el-34 monobloc 100/100 with 1960a cab I played for years. I always thought the marshall was bright, I played my strat thru it mostly and was constantly looking for ways to fatten the tone just a little. Of course the fender had a lot to do with the brightness but it was thru trial and error I figured out it was more to do with the marshall. This rig is the very reason I bought my first les Paul, when I plugged my lp into it it was a marriage made in heaven. To this day I think the brightness was because of that 1960a 4x12 cab more so then the amp. I had a 4x14 behringer cabinet I swapped it with and that made a huge difference. I’m playing fenders thru fenders these days mostly. |
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