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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 14, 2021 21:13:39 GMT
After years of a complete mess in my cable bag i finally resolved to get the problem in order and bought a 50 pack of Velcro cable ties. Thank goodness I finally did this- here's the before picture...  |
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 15, 2021 8:53:56 GMT
I always keep my spares tied up with cable ties and try to keep the ones I'm using for gigs in a separate bag. After a gig, I must admit they just get thrown into the bag, but I sort them back out usually the next day.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 15, 2021 14:14:26 GMT
I always keep my spares tied up with cable ties and try to keep the ones I'm using for gigs in a separate bag. After a gig, I must admit they just get thrown into the bag, but I sort them back out usually the next day. I let it go out of hand for way too long. So many times I needed to reach in quick for a cable and wound up (nice pun?) with 3 or 4 that I had to untangle to get one out. I have a cable bag too, a big tool backpack from Grizzly Tool. |
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 15, 2021 14:26:02 GMT
I always keep my spares tied up with cable ties and try to keep the ones I'm using for gigs in a separate bag. After a gig, I must admit they just get thrown into the bag, but I sort them back out usually the next day. I let it go out of hand for way too long. So many times I needed to reach in quick for a cable and wound up (nice pun?) with 3 or 4 that I had to untangle to get one out. I have a cable bag too, a big tool backpack from Grizzly Tool. I use to use something like this, only it was built for music cable, not power like this one. Trouble was it was made of plastic and easily broke. I bought a pack of five and they lasted less than a year and we only gig about 10 times a year.
The firm that made them is no longer in business
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 15, 2021 14:38:14 GMT
I let it go out of hand for way too long. So many times I needed to reach in quick for a cable and wound up (nice pun?) with 3 or 4 that I had to untangle to get one out. I have a cable bag too, a big tool backpack from Grizzly Tool. I use to use something like this, only it was built for music cable, not power like this one. Trouble was it was made of plastic and easily broke. I bought a pack of five and they lasted less than a year and we only gig about 10 times a year.
The firm that made them is no longer in business
I was actually debating getting a cable organizer like that but I want 100% convinced that it would be better than the backpack I am using. Looks like I made the right decision in passing on that one |
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Post by infant on Feb 15, 2021 16:07:10 GMT
The one band that I played with a couple of years ago used those organizers and they worked very well for the 18ga speaker wires that they were using. I have Velcro strips on all my cables and at the end of the night, I wind each cable into a 12-14” loop and secure them with the Velcro, ready for the next gig. All my PA and power cables go into a milk crate, my guitar cables go into a small gig case with my microphones and other guitar accessories. I hate having to unravel a rats nest of cables.
My sax player used to hand me his mic cables at gigs while I was setting up the PA and they were always in a tangled mess. One day, I threw it back at him and said “I don’t have time to untangle this mess, give me a cable that’s ready to go like everyone else does. I’m not spending 5 minutes to untangle this because you couldn’t spend 30 seconds to wind it properly”. He still throws the cable into his bag but at least he untangles it for me now.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 15, 2021 17:23:20 GMT
The one band that I played with a couple of years ago used those organizers and they worked very well for the 18ga speaker wires that they were using. I have Velcro strips on all my cables and at the end of the night, I wind each cable into a 12-14” loop and secure them with the Velcro, ready for the next gig. All my PA and power cables go into a milk crate, my guitar cables go into a small gig case with my microphones and other guitar accessories. I hate having to unravel a rats nest of cables. My sax player used to hand me his mic cables at gigs while I was setting up the PA and they were always in a tangled mess. One day, I threw it back at him and said “I don’t have time to untangle this mess, give me a cable that’s ready to go like everyone else does. I’m not spending 5 minutes to untangle this because you couldn’t spend 30 seconds to wind it properly”. He still throws the cable into his bag but at least he untangles it for me now. My rats nest days are over now. I don't know why it took me so long because I always seem to be rushing when setting up my audio stuff and now that everything is virtual it is a mad dash for me because nobody else really knows what to do when it comes to plugging into the mixer and setting up the mics. |
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Post by zontar on Feb 16, 2021 1:11:46 GMT
I keep thinking I need to get some of these, but often I am only using two cables--one before the volume pedal/other pedals-and one after to the amp--btu sometimes I'll have more.
When I've played at church we have the for the mic cables & for cables from DIs, etc to the board (Well to a snake that goes to the board.)
It works well--although some people need to learn how to wrap the cables.
I wouldn't need a 50 pack--but I should buy some.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 16, 2021 1:28:34 GMT
I keep thinking I need to get some of these, but often I am only using two cables--one before the volume pedal/other pedals-and one after to the amp--btu sometimes I'll have more. When I've played at church we have the for the mic cables & for cables from DIs, etc to the board (Well to a snake that goes to the board.) It works well--although some people need to learn how to wrap the cables. I wouldn't need a 50 pack--but I should buy some. They are pretty cheap. I think I paid $8 for the 50 pack on Amazon. I used two ties per cable so I used the whole pack. I might get another pack as I have a few more cables to do, but I probably don't need another 50. I'll have to check and see if there's a 25 pack. They are all worth it if you have a lot of cables- your church should probably buy a couple packs! |
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Post by zontar on Feb 16, 2021 1:36:32 GMT
I keep thinking I need to get some of these, but often I am only using two cables--one before the volume pedal/other pedals-and one after to the amp--btu sometimes I'll have more. When I've played at church we have the for the mic cables & for cables from DIs, etc to the board (Well to a snake that goes to the board.) It works well--although some people need to learn how to wrap the cables. I wouldn't need a 50 pack--but I should buy some. They are pretty cheap. I think I paid $8 for the 50 pack on Amazon. I used two ties per cable so I used the whole pack. I might get another pack as I have a few more cables to do, but I probably don't need another 50. I'll have to check and see if there's a 25 pack. They are all worth it if you have a lot of cables- your church should probably buy a couple packs! Our church has plenty of them. And I should have included they are also used for instrument cables (For example we have a keyboard that uses one.) I tend to use my own cables when I play. But I'd be good with a 25 pack, it should be enough for the cables I use on a regular basis, and ones that I might use. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 16, 2021 1:56:45 GMT
They are pretty cheap. I think I paid $8 for the 50 pack on Amazon. I used two ties per cable so I used the whole pack. I might get another pack as I have a few more cables to do, but I probably don't need another 50. I'll have to check and see if there's a 25 pack. They are all worth it if you have a lot of cables- your church should probably buy a couple packs! Our church has plenty of them. And I should have included they are also used for instrument cables (For example we have a keyboard that uses one.) I tend to sue my own cables when I play. But I'd be good with a 25 pack, it should be enough for the cables I use on a regular basis, and ones that I might use. I used them for longer instrument cables too- why not! My suggestion, and others may disagree, but I greatly prefer the ties where the loops make that end sort of padded. I'd tried the flat ones that come in a roll and I don't find them to be very good |
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Post by zontar on Feb 17, 2021 5:13:32 GMT
As long as it keeps them from being tangled
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 17, 2021 12:22:15 GMT
As long as it keeps them from being tangled The really flat ones probably keep them from tangling for a time but they feel really flimsy and it is a different kind of velcro that doesn't grab as well in my opinion |
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Post by infant on Feb 17, 2021 14:48:14 GMT
I keep thinking I need to get some of these, but often I am only using two cables--one before the volume pedal/other pedals-and one after to the amp--btu sometimes I'll have more. When I've played at church we have the for the mic cables & for cables from DIs, etc to the board (Well to a snake that goes to the board.) It works well--although some people need to learn how to wrap the cables. I wouldn't need a 50 pack--but I should buy some. I don’t know if you have a Lee Valley store near you, but I buy a roll of them there that last me a long time www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/home/electronics/cables/51955-velcro-brand-cable-ties?item=EA172 |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 17, 2021 15:05:52 GMT
I keep thinking I need to get some of these, but often I am only using two cables--one before the volume pedal/other pedals-and one after to the amp--btu sometimes I'll have more. When I've played at church we have the for the mic cables & for cables from DIs, etc to the board (Well to a snake that goes to the board.) It works well--although some people need to learn how to wrap the cables. I wouldn't need a 50 pack--but I should buy some. I don’t know if you have a Lee Valley store near you, but I buy a roll of them there that last me a long time www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/home/electronics/cables/51955-velcro-brand-cable-ties?item=EA172How do you find those work for you? I bought a roll years ago and I don't really like them |
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Post by infant on Feb 17, 2021 16:31:24 GMT
They are great for guitar cables. I usually use one attached around one end. I usually wrap the cable in a 1 foot diameter loop and then tie it off with the Velcro. I’ve got some 20 ft cables that get tied off nicely with these.
However I will say that they don’t work well with the 40’ lengths of heavier speaker wires that we have.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 5:30:02 GMT
I've been using something different to wrap cables. I have no idea what these things are called, so I'll show you a picture of one on it's own and one in use. Pardon the fancy background...Couldn't find a good place to take pictures. This is a length of elastic cable doubled back with a plastic ball on the end.  This can be wound once or multiple times around a coil of wire and then the plastic ball is tucked through to keep it in place.  These have the advantage of being adjustable to fit lots of sizes of coils of wire depending on how many times it's wrapped around. This one was given to me by my former landlord who used to buy them in 50 lots when he went snow-birding to the US in the winter. I showed it to my former employer. excited because I thought it would be a great way to coil up the 220 volt cables for floor sanders. He shrugged, said he knew all about them, and that they could be bought in any dollar store. I thought they were a really cool way to store long cables, such as the ones bands might use. |
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Post by zontar on Feb 18, 2021 6:55:57 GMT
I keep thinking I need to get some of these, but often I am only using two cables--one before the volume pedal/other pedals-and one after to the amp--btu sometimes I'll have more. When I've played at church we have the for the mic cables & for cables from DIs, etc to the board (Well to a snake that goes to the board.) It works well--although some people need to learn how to wrap the cables. I wouldn't need a 50 pack--but I should buy some. I don’t know if you have a Lee Valley store near you, but I buy a roll of them there that last me a long time www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/home/electronics/cables/51955-velcro-brand-cable-ties?item=EA172There is a local Lee Valley store That price is also much better than what I see similar stuff going for at music stores. |
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Post by zontar on Feb 18, 2021 6:57:10 GMT
I've been using something different to wrap cables. I have no idea what these things are called, so I'll show you a picture of one on it's own and one in use. Pardon the fancy background...Couldn't find a good place to take pictures. This is a length of elastic cable doubled back with a plastic ball on the end. This can be wound once or multiple times around a coil of wire and then the plastic ball is tucked through to keep it in place. These have the advantage of being adjustable to fit lots of sizes of coils of wire depending on how many times it's wrapped around. This one was given to me by my former landlord who used to buy them in 50 lots when he went snow-birding to the US in the winter. I showed it to my former employer. excited because I thought it would be a great way to coil up the 220 volt cables for floor sanders. He shrugged, said he knew all about them, and that they could be bought in any dollar store. I thought they were a really cool way to store long cables, such as the ones bands might use. We have stuff like that for our outdoors extension cords. But it seems like overkill for instrument & mic cables--at least the ones I have. Although I have similar devices with smaller ends. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 18, 2021 12:21:55 GMT
I've been using something different to wrap cables. I have no idea what these things are called, so I'll show you a picture of one on it's own and one in use. Pardon the fancy background...Couldn't find a good place to take pictures. This is a length of elastic cable doubled back with a plastic ball on the end. This can be wound once or multiple times around a coil of wire and then the plastic ball is tucked through to keep it in place. These have the advantage of being adjustable to fit lots of sizes of coils of wire depending on how many times it's wrapped around. This one was given to me by my former landlord who used to buy them in 50 lots when he went snow-birding to the US in the winter. I showed it to my former employer. excited because I thought it would be a great way to coil up the 220 volt cables for floor sanders. He shrugged, said he knew all about them, and that they could be bought in any dollar store. I thought they were a really cool way to store long cables, such as the ones bands might use. Wow that thing looks old school. I don't think I have ever seen anything like that. Doesn't look cheap either |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 18, 2021 12:23:14 GMT
There is a local Lee Valley store That price is also much better than what I see similar stuff going for at music stores. That's around the same price I see at Amazon and similar. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 6:35:12 GMT
I'm not sure of the price for those elastic/ball ties I showed, but the way my former employer talked about it, they're cheap in the dollar stores. I wouldn't be surprised if there were different sizes of them too.
That picture I posted is one holding a thirty foot extension cable in a fairly tight coil. I would think that for power cords, or long runs of XLR mike cables or speaker cables, they'd be great. I was impressed with them because until you've tried to handle 20 - 40 ft of 220Volt drum sander cables, you don't have any idea how bad tangled cords can be. The store I was in was one that specialized in site-finished hardwood and specialized in high school gymnasiums. We'd have multiple sanders doing gymnasium-length sanding runs, so it wasn't uncommon for each one to have a hundred feet of cable and German Hummel 220 booster inline. Keeping cables neat and organized is paramount. I figure any kind of cable device that'll withstand that kind of punishment commercially would definitely last a lifetime with most pro bands.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 19, 2021 12:24:37 GMT
I'm not sure of the price for those elastic/ball ties I showed, but the way my former employer talked about it, they're cheap in the dollar stores. I wouldn't be surprised if there were different sizes of them too. That picture I posted is one holding a thirty foot extension cable in a fairly tight coil. I would think that for power cords, or long runs of XLR mike cables or speaker cables, they'd be great. I was impressed with them because until you've tried to handle 20 - 40 ft of 220Volt drum sander cables, you don't have any idea how bad tangled cords can be. The store I was in was one that specialized in site-finished hardwood and specialized in high school gymnasiums. We'd have multiple sanders doing gymnasium-length sanding runs, so it wasn't uncommon for each one to have a hundred feet of cable and German Hummel 220 booster inline. Keeping cables neat and organized is paramount. I figure any kind of cable device that'll withstand that kind of punishment commercially would definitely last a lifetime with most pro bands. I think this is them? Ball Bungee Cords |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 4:47:24 GMT
I'm not sure of the price for those elastic/ball ties I showed, but the way my former employer talked about it, they're cheap in the dollar stores. I wouldn't be surprised if there were different sizes of them too. That picture I posted is one holding a thirty foot extension cable in a fairly tight coil. I would think that for power cords, or long runs of XLR mike cables or speaker cables, they'd be great. I was impressed with them because until you've tried to handle 20 - 40 ft of 220Volt drum sander cables, you don't have any idea how bad tangled cords can be. The store I was in was one that specialized in site-finished hardwood and specialized in high school gymnasiums. We'd have multiple sanders doing gymnasium-length sanding runs, so it wasn't uncommon for each one to have a hundred feet of cable and German Hummel 220 booster inline. Keeping cables neat and organized is paramount. I figure any kind of cable device that'll withstand that kind of punishment commercially would definitely last a lifetime with most pro bands. I think this is them? Ball Bungee CordsYes, I think you found the same thing. Not too bad for price. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 20, 2021 13:45:40 GMT
Yes, I think you found the same thing. Not too bad for price. A lot cheaper than I was thinking. I thought they'd be a buck apiece |
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Post by zontar on Feb 20, 2021 21:55:33 GMT
I'm not sure of the price for those elastic/ball ties I showed, but the way my former employer talked about it, they're cheap in the dollar stores. I wouldn't be surprised if there were different sizes of them too. That picture I posted is one holding a thirty foot extension cable in a fairly tight coil. I would think that for power cords, or long runs of XLR mike cables or speaker cables, they'd be great. I was impressed with them because until you've tried to handle 20 - 40 ft of 220Volt drum sander cables, you don't have any idea how bad tangled cords can be. The store I was in was one that specialized in site-finished hardwood and specialized in high school gymnasiums. We'd have multiple sanders doing gymnasium-length sanding runs, so it wasn't uncommon for each one to have a hundred feet of cable and German Hummel 220 booster inline. Keeping cables neat and organized is paramount. I figure any kind of cable device that'll withstand that kind of punishment commercially would definitely last a lifetime with most pro bands. They do work well for extension cords--we have some for a variety of outdoor uses. |
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