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Post by infant on Feb 13, 2021 19:32:40 GMT
Do you prefer gig bags or a HSC? I mainly store my guitars in their hard shell cases but I do have a Gibson gig bag that came with my LP Melody Maker. Now, I like gig bags as they are lightweight and easy to carry. However, I will not use a gig bag to carry my Gibson guitars due to the weakness of the headstocks. When I bought my Gibson MM, it came inside the gig bag, within a cardboard box. When we pulled it out of the box, you could see how the headstock was deforming the gig bag. To this day, knowing that Gibsons are susceptible to headstock damage if dropped, I don’t know why they ship many of them with gig bags. I ended up purchasing a HSC immediately for that guitar. All that being said, I have no problem bringing any of my Fenders to a gig in a gig bag and this is what I normally do. I used a Levy’s gig bag for about 15 yrs before my son lent it to a friend one day and I never saw it again. So when I got the Gibson gig bag, it was pretty much identical to the one I used to have. It’s probably got more padding than my old one. My ‘75 Tele had been bumped around so much in that old bag, I don’t think a Gibson would have survived. My Gibsons, Martin and Ovation will only be transported in their HSC. The Fenders usually get transported in the gig bag nowadays. So, what do you prefer using?
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Post by zontar on Feb 13, 2021 19:50:28 GMT
HSC for me & my gear rarely leaves the house
I think that’s partly because the first gig bags I saw were real cheap ones And while there are some very good gig bags, they tend to cost more than a decent HSC
My Mandobird was bought used & while new it came with a gig bag to fit it, the person who sold it to the store did not have one
The gig bags & cases they had were too small or too big The store gave me a cardboard box from a small kids’ acoustic guitar (Yamaha)
I have the dimensions of the Mandobird on my phone & I keep an eye out
Most likely I would end with a gig bag for a very small guitar or a large ukulele
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 13, 2021 20:07:23 GMT
I prefer the old 1970's chipboard cases that don't offer any Protection at all!
Seriously, pretty much all of mine have really good hardshell cases. I do have a gig bag for my old bass, but that hasn't been out of the house ever. I also still have a deering banjo gig bag even though I don't have the banjo because I felt it a waste to give the case away.
For any guitar that I would gig with however, they all have cases
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Post by zontar on Feb 13, 2021 21:06:28 GMT
I prefer the old 1970's chipboard cases that don't offer any Protection at all! Seriously, pretty much all of mine have really good hardshell cases. I do have a gig bag for my old bass, but that hasn't been out of the house ever. I also still have a deering banjo gig bag even though I don't have the banjo because I felt it a waste to give the case away. For any guitar that I would gig with however, they all have cases My Classical came with one of those cases. It was in a case of that type when I took a spill on some ice--and the headstock broke off. Fortunately it was repairable. I got a hard shell case soon after that.
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Post by infant on Feb 13, 2021 21:42:02 GMT
I prefer the old 1970's chipboard cases that don't offer any Protection at all! it’s funny but until about 5 years ago, that’s all I had for my ‘72 Ovation and it’s still pretty much mint! I finally saw a molded Ovation case for $80 bucks used and in excellent condition so I bought it. Sold the cardboard one for $20, net $60 total!
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Post by zontar on Feb 13, 2021 21:45:23 GMT
I prefer the old 1970's chipboard cases that don't offer any Protection at all! it’s funny but until about 5 years ago, that’s all I had for my ‘72 Ovation and it’s still pretty much mint! I finally saw a molded Ovation case for $80 bucks used and in excellent condition so I bought it. Sold the cardboard one for $20, net $60 total! Good deal. Anytime I've seen good prices on cases they are not ones that will work for me.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 13, 2021 22:53:27 GMT
I prefer the old 1970's chipboard cases that don't offer any Protection at all! it’s funny but until about 5 years ago, that’s all I had for my ‘72 Ovation and it’s still pretty much mint! I finally saw a molded Ovation case for $80 bucks used and in excellent condition so I bought it. Sold the cardboard one for $20, net $60 total! I think we've all had quite a few of those crappy chipboard cases...
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 13, 2021 22:54:10 GMT
I prefer the old 1970's chipboard cases that don't offer any Protection at all! Seriously, pretty much all of mine have really good hardshell cases. I do have a gig bag for my old bass, but that hasn't been out of the house ever. I also still have a deering banjo gig bag even though I don't have the banjo because I felt it a waste to give the case away. For any guitar that I would gig with however, they all have cases My Classical came with one of those cases. It was in a case of that type when I took a spill on some ice--and the headstock broke off. Fortunately it was repairable. I got a hard shell case soon after that. Yeah talk about no Protection whatsoever
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Post by zontar on Feb 14, 2021 3:38:18 GMT
My Classical came with one of those cases. It was in a case of that type when I took a spill on some ice--and the headstock broke off. Fortunately it was repairable. I got a hard shell case soon after that. Yeah talk about no Protection whatsoever Well it protected against dust
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 14, 2021 10:34:44 GMT
Do you prefer gig bags or a HSC? I mainly store my guitars in their hard shell cases but I do have a Gibson gig bag that came with my LP Melody Maker. Now, I like gig bags as they are lightweight and easy to carry. However, I will not use a gig bag to carry my Gibson guitars due to the weakness of the headstocks. When I bought my Gibson MM, it came inside the gig bag, within a cardboard box. When we pulled it out of the box, you could see how the headstock was deforming the gig bag. To this day, knowing that Gibsons are susceptible to headstock damage if dropped, I don’t know why they ship many of them with gig bags. I ended up purchasing a HSC immediately for that guitar. All that being said, I have no problem bringing any of my Fenders to a gig in a gig bag and this is what I normally do. I used a Levy’s gig bag for about 15 yrs before my son lent it to a friend one day and I never saw it again. So when I got the Gibson gig bag, it was pretty much identical to the one I used to have. It’s probably got more padding than my old one. My ‘75 Tele had been bumped around so much in that old bag, I don’t think a Gibson would have survived. My Gibsons, Martin and Ovation will only be transported in their HSC. The Fenders usually get transported in the gig bag nowadays. So, what do you prefer using? View AttachmentLike most, I store my guitars all in their hard cases, except for the ones I may be currently using. At the moment I have a Strat and a bass on a couple of stands. I use the Strat for noodling around and the bass when I'm recording.
I have owned numerous Gibson guitars, mainly LPs and currently have 7. Luckily never broken a headstock. I have tended to buy Custom Shop, so none would have come in gig bags.
When I go out playing, I usually take at least 2 guitars in gig bags. I have two well made gigs bags, one from Gator and the other from Mono. They were fairly expensive, but as with most things, you get what you pay for. Both gig bags have support for the neck near the headstock, so protect LPs well.
If I take a third guitar, I use a cheap hard shell case I bought for LP style guitars to save messing up the Gibson cases
Incidentally Rob, I would never use that Gibson gig bag you showed. I have one here that my son got with a Studio, when Amazon were selling them cheaply. First thing he did was buy a solid case for it. The gig bag is not shaped at all for LP style guitars.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 14, 2021 14:01:04 GMT
Yeah talk about no Protection whatsoever Well it protected against dust Yeah that's about it
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Post by infant on Feb 14, 2021 15:11:59 GMT
Do you prefer gig bags or a HSC? I mainly store my guitars in their hard shell cases but I do have a Gibson gig bag that came with my LP Melody Maker. Now, I like gig bags as they are lightweight and easy to carry. However, I will not use a gig bag to carry my Gibson guitars due to the weakness of the headstocks. When I bought my Gibson MM, it came inside the gig bag, within a cardboard box. When we pulled it out of the box, you could see how the headstock was deforming the gig bag. To this day, knowing that Gibsons are susceptible to headstock damage if dropped, I don’t know why they ship many of them with gig bags. I ended up purchasing a HSC immediately for that guitar. All that being said, I have no problem bringing any of my Fenders to a gig in a gig bag and this is what I normally do. I used a Levy’s gig bag for about 15 yrs before my son lent it to a friend one day and I never saw it again. So when I got the Gibson gig bag, it was pretty much identical to the one I used to have. It’s probably got more padding than my old one. My ‘75 Tele had been bumped around so much in that old bag, I don’t think a Gibson would have survived. My Gibsons, Martin and Ovation will only be transported in their HSC. The Fenders usually get transported in the gig bag nowadays. So, what do you prefer using? View AttachmentIncidentally Rob, I would never use that Gibson gig bag you showed. I have one here that my son got with a Studio, when Amazon were selling them cheaply. First thing he did was buy a solid case for it. The gig bag is not shaped at all for LP style guitars.
Like I said John, I have no problem using that case for my Telecasters as I had used an identical one for years with no problem. But when we pulled the brand new MM out of its shipping box and I saw how arched the case looked with the guitar in it, I said “nope, that’s not safe”. So I got a HSC for it. My Gibsons always travel in their HSC and I use Hercules “hanger” stands when I leave them out at home. I don’t have any pets running around that can knock them over.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 15:39:06 GMT
I've never bought a guitar that came in a gig bag. The one time I bought a used Fender Contemporary Stratocaster that the previous owner had traded in with a gigbag, I turned my nose up at it. I was prepared to walk away from the deal until the store owner offered to trade it for a used hardshell G&G case.
To me it's not just about how you want to protect the guitar going back and forth to gigs either. I tend, in recent years, to have almost all my guitars in cases except the one or two that I'm playing regularly. Guitars in gigbags don't store worth a damn....There's nothing quite as good as a rectangular hardshell case that'll let you store the guitar standing in it's end or at least lying down on it's edge.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 14, 2021 15:55:07 GMT
I've never bought a guitar that came in a gig bag. The one time I bought a used Fender Contemporary Stratocaster that the previous owner had traded in with a gigbag, I turned my nose up at it. I was prepared to walk away from the deal until the store owner offered to trade it for a used hardshell G&G case. To me it's not just about how you want to protect the guitar going back and forth to gigs either. I tend, in recent years, to have almost all my guitars in cases except the one or two that I'm playing regularly. Guitars in gigbags don't store worth a damn....There's nothing quite as good as a rectangular hardshell case that'll let you store the guitar standing in it's end or at least lying down on it's edge. Wow, you hard shell case snob, you! Actually I remember years ago when I bought my 1963 Guild they were going to give it to me without the case,, despite the fact that they had the original case sitting in the store. I told the clerk, if I am going to pay $1500 for this guitar, I am NOT going to pay an additional $50 for a used case that the guitar should be in anyway. They caved immediately, which is what they should have done...
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Post by zontar on Feb 15, 2021 0:38:59 GMT
the used guitars I've bought came with hardshell cases My Mandobird however did not come with a case or gig bag as the previous owner never traded one in. (As seen above)
The Baux I posted a while back doesn't have a case or gig bag--but doesn't really need one.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 15, 2021 0:48:28 GMT
The Baux I posted a while back doesn't have a case or gig bag--but doesn't really need one. I figured the Baux would have a super fancy case. And then- THE BIG REVEAL
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Post by zontar on Feb 15, 2021 0:51:35 GMT
The Baux I posted a while back doesn't have a case or gig bag--but doesn't really need one. I figured the Baux would have a super fancy case. And then- THE BIG REVEAL Okay, it's so fancy, it's invisible
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 15, 2021 1:16:36 GMT
I figured the Baux would have a super fancy case. And then- THE BIG REVEAL Okay, it's so fancy, it's invisible Wow amazing!
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Post by zontar on Feb 15, 2021 2:10:26 GMT
In case anybody missed the Baux II pictures & info I posted before: A friend made this in his teens--the top & back are 1" plywood. The sides are panelling nailed on to he sides the neck is screwed on, and no nut. Initially the strings were held on by screws & there were four of them. Over time they all fell apart. When I took over ownership I added a machine head & a new string. It sounds way better than it should. Although it certainly wouldn't win a ton of awards for sound, but still better than it should. And it's fretless & fun to play. (And in reality--no case)
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Post by Sinster on Feb 16, 2021 15:19:24 GMT
HSC for the most part. Once and a while a gig bag works out better.
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Post by Sgt Rock on Feb 17, 2021 3:52:12 GMT
I used gig bags for my Squier guitars. they came with the guitars when I bought them. I saw no problem using them. I just didn't abuse them and respected the fact that they weren't hard cases.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 4:41:56 GMT
I wish I could find the video I saw online about ten years ago.....It was done by one of the companies that was offering kind of a hybrid case that was like a gigbag with styrofoam inserts. Their demonstration of their product involved putting a Gibson Les Paul in their case and throwing it off a four-storey building onto the asphalt. The guitar survived. It's probably the best demonstration I've ever seen for a soft-shell case.
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Post by zontar on Feb 17, 2021 5:16:18 GMT
I wish I could find the video I saw online about ten years ago.....It was done by one of the companies that was offering kind of a hybrid case that was like a gigbag with styrofoam inserts. Their demonstration of their product involved putting a Gibson Les Paul in their case and throwing it off a four-storey building onto the asphalt. The guitar survived. It's probably the best demonstration I've ever seen for a soft-shell case. I saw that They were not cheap
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 6:22:30 GMT
I wish I could find the video I saw online about ten years ago.....It was done by one of the companies that was offering kind of a hybrid case that was like a gigbag with styrofoam inserts. Their demonstration of their product involved putting a Gibson Les Paul in their case and throwing it off a four-storey building onto the asphalt. The guitar survived. It's probably the best demonstration I've ever seen for a soft-shell case. I saw that They were not cheap I don't remember the price but probably not....I think they were banking on a market that would pay a premium for a case that was capable of surviving a bad trauma but was still really light.
I like ads like that though.....One of the ads I saw in a guitar magazine back in the 80's made enough of an impression on me that I can remember it over 30 years later. It was an ad for Ampeg amplifiers that were being used on a tour by a famous act. Somehow, the belly hatch of the plane came open unexpectedly and a VT-22 amp dropped about 17 feet onto the tarmac, but survived and played fine when they checked it.
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Post by zontar on Feb 17, 2021 7:05:45 GMT
Whatever you use I do remember once hearing a rule of thumb: (With a possible exception for flight cases if you fly a lot or for touring):
Don't spend more on case/gig bag than the guitar is worth (Not what you paid for it--but what is worth)
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 17, 2021 8:39:14 GMT
I wish I could find the video I saw online about ten years ago.....It was done by one of the companies that was offering kind of a hybrid case that was like a gigbag with styrofoam inserts. Their demonstration of their product involved putting a Gibson Les Paul in their case and throwing it off a four-storey building onto the asphalt. The guitar survived. It's probably the best demonstration I've ever seen for a soft-shell case. Sounds like the Mono make I have for my 335. The Mono M80 Vertigo Semi-Hollow and it cost me £194 a couple of years ago. They are now £209
They have done numerous videos showing gig bag and guitar being thrown around. This is one thrown downstairs
This one shows the bag out of a window.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 17, 2021 12:16:50 GMT
I saw that They were not cheap I don't remember the price but probably not....I think they were banking on a market that would pay a premium for a case that was capable of surviving a bad trauma but was still really light.
I like ads like that though.....One of the ads I saw in a guitar magazine back in the 80's made enough of an impression on me that I can remember it over 30 years later. It was an ad for Ampeg amplifiers that were being used on a tour by a famous act. Somehow, the belly hatch of the plane came open unexpectedly and a VT-22 amp dropped about 17 feet onto the tarmac, but survived and played fine when they checked it.
I don't think I'd want to try that with my VT-22! (well now it is a V-4)
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 17, 2021 12:20:18 GMT
I'd like to find a really good gig bag that offers case-like protection for an archtop. Tell me if anyone knows of one!
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 17, 2021 13:02:06 GMT
I'd like to find a really good gig bag that offers case-like protection for an archtop. Tell me if anyone knows of one! My 335 fits easily in the Mono, however, my Guild Starfire III won't fit. It talks about 17" guitars.
There's a good little review here
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 17, 2021 14:01:23 GMT
I'd like to find a really good gig bag that offers case-like protection for an archtop. Tell me if anyone knows of one! My 335 fits easily in the Mono, however, my Guild Starfire III won't fit. It talks about 17" guitars.
There's a good little review here
Thanks, I will check it out!
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