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Post by Sgt Rock on Feb 7, 2021 1:18:00 GMT
when I first tried to play guitar using a slide, open G tuning really opened up playing with a slide for me. however, open G is far more versital than just playing old "blues" songs.
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 7, 2021 3:27:51 GMT
when I first tried to play guitar using a slide, open G tuning really opened up playing with a slide for me. however, open G is far more versital than just playing old "blues" songs.
Are you playing slide on a high action guitar or on a lap steel? I think I had mine tuned to G6? |
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Post by Sgt Rock on Feb 7, 2021 4:24:26 GMT
on my regular guitars. my '59 Gretsch and my Alverez acoustic. I've never set-up a guitar specifically for playing slide.
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Post by zontar on Feb 7, 2021 20:44:32 GMT
My Les Paul copy is the one I use for slide
Although the action is not super high
I can play it without a slide as well
I mostly play it in open G
I like open G for several reasons- among them is they 3 strings are still tuned the same as standard so if I get lost I use those strings and find my way
But it’s also the tuning that works best for me
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Post by Sgt Rock on Feb 7, 2021 22:49:57 GMT
My Les Paul copy is the one I use for slide Although the action is not super high I can play it without a slide as well I mostly play it in open G I like open G for several reasons- among them is they 3 strings are still tuned the same as standard so if I get lost I use those strings and find my way But it’s also the tuning that works best for me also, since the D,G, & B are the same as Standard tuning, you can use Standard tuning with your slide and don't have to change the tuning of the other strings. |
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Post by zontar on Feb 7, 2021 22:53:28 GMT
My Les Paul copy is the one I use for slide Although the action is not super high I can play it without a slide as well I mostly play it in open G I like open G for several reasons- among them is they 3 strings are still tuned the same as standard so if I get lost I use those strings and find my way But it’s also the tuning that works best for me also, since the D,G, & B are the same as Standard tuning, you can use Standard tuning with your slide and don't have to change the tuning of the other strings. Certainly if you jus use those strings Which you can do for some songs (That works for standard and open G tunings) Or write songs that do that (Or play solos that do) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 8:48:55 GMT
I've always avoided getting involved with alternate tunings, on the premise that until I've mastered playing in Spanish tuning, it seems crazy to start doing something else. I don't play slide which probably eliminates at least some of the application, although I can see where a player who particularly wanted to emulate Keith Richards would probably find that it opens some doors. There are some Stones songs that you can get close in standard tunings, but it never really sounds perfect unless you're in open G. The one time I tried to give it a go was because I wanted to learn one particular Doobie Brothers song that really needs the G tuning. If there's anything that'll make you feel like a bungling beginner, it's suddenly realizing that all the standard finger configurations that are so easy to play normally don't work and you're consciously trying to press your fingers into shapes that don't come easily. I played around with "South City Midnight Lady" for a few weeks but eventually moved back into music that was easier. Maybe I'll get back to it one of these days.
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Post by zontar on Feb 21, 2021 9:09:52 GMT
I've always avoided getting involved with alternate tunings, on the premise that until I've mastered playing in Spanish tuning, it seems crazy to start doing something else.
I used to think that way--but then I realized if I did that I would only be doing a very few things guitar wise. So maybe I lowered my standards, maybe not. But I found challenging myself was good for my playing--and could be fun at times. Sometimes I lose the challenge, sometimes I beat it, sometimes it's a draw. But it helps. I'm know there are people that pick ups tuff way better than I do, but that's okay for both of us. Your mileage, as they say, may vary. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 21, 2021 14:16:28 GMT
I always found alternate tunings to be very confusing and it goes completely against my muscle memory. I'm probably not patient enough
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Post by zontar on Feb 22, 2021 6:53:51 GMT
I always found alternate tunings to be very confusing and it goes completely against my muscle memory. I'm probably not patient enough I get that feeling--however consider this--do you ever use different voicing of the same chord? Do you always play G Major the same way for example? Maybe you do, but I certainly don't--even in the same song. Plus I play a variety of songs with a variety of chord orders--and I play guitars with different scales + bass + mandolin (Sort of) So while muscle memory may affect that--it can be trained. Using an open or alternate tuning is really just like using a different voicing. So it can work. Best way to do it its to dedicate a specific guitar to that tuning. That way when you pick up that guitar it helps the muscle memory. (it also means less tuning/re-tuning) So just a couple of tips that help me. Although I could certainly be better at open tuning & mandolin tuning. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 22, 2021 12:45:09 GMT
I always found alternate tunings to be very confusing and it goes completely against my muscle memory. I'm probably not patient enough I get that feeling--however consider this--do you ever use different voicing of the same chord? Do you always play G Major the same way for example? Maybe you do, but I certainly don't--even in the same song. Plus I play a variety of songs with a variety of chord orders--and I play guitars with different scales + bass + mandolin (Sort of) So while muscle memory may affect that--it can be trained. Using an open or alternate tuning is really just like using a different voicing. So it can work. Best way to do it its to dedicate a specific guitar to that tuning. That way when you pick up that guitar it helps the muscle memory. (it also means less tuning/re-tuning) So just a couple of tips that help me. Although I could certainly be better at open tuning & mandolin tuning. Sure I use different voicings all the time. The issue for me is largely time- it would take quite a bit of time to get used to alternate tunings and time is already at a premium with my practicing trumpet for 2 1/2 hours every day after work. Perhaps it is an excuse- one could say if I was really motivated I would make time. But I'd need a reason to get motivated to be able to overcome the muscle memory |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 22, 2021 12:46:34 GMT
BTW I just realized that when I did play lap steel, I actually learned it in E6, not G6 so I would always know where the root bass note would fall
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Post by johnreardon on Feb 22, 2021 12:48:37 GMT
I never bother with different tunings, way too complex for me.  If I play any sort of slide, usually with the side of a harmonica, I always do it it standard tuning |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 22, 2021 13:10:27 GMT
I never bother with different tunings, way too complex for me. If I play any sort of slide, usually with the side of a harmonica, I always do it it standard tuning Yeah I always struggled with them too |
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Post by zontar on Feb 23, 2021 2:16:28 GMT
I get that feeling--however consider this--do you ever use different voicing of the same chord? Do you always play G Major the same way for example? Maybe you do, but I certainly don't--even in the same song. Plus I play a variety of songs with a variety of chord orders--and I play guitars with different scales + bass + mandolin (Sort of) So while muscle memory may affect that--it can be trained. Using an open or alternate tuning is really just like using a different voicing. So it can work. Best way to do it its to dedicate a specific guitar to that tuning. That way when you pick up that guitar it helps the muscle memory. (it also means less tuning/re-tuning) So just a couple of tips that help me. Although I could certainly be better at open tuning & mandolin tuning. Sure I use different voicings all the time. The issue for me is largely time- it would take quite a bit of time to get used to alternate tunings and time is already at a premium with my practicing trumpet for 2 1/2 hours every day after work. Perhaps it is an excuse- one could say if I was really motivated I would make time. But I'd need a reason to get motivated to be able to overcome the muscle memory No muscle memory to overcome--just use what you have. You already do the things you'd need. of course you don't have to do it--but just saying... |
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Post by zontar on Feb 23, 2021 2:18:01 GMT
I never bother with different tunings, way too complex for me. If I play any sort of slide, usually with the side of a harmonica, I always do it it standard tuning I play primarily in standard tuning, but open G is easiest for me as it's the same as standard on three strings--which helps a lot--and it helps me when I play slide--although I have played slide in standard tuning as well. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 23, 2021 12:19:46 GMT
Sure I use different voicings all the time. The issue for me is largely time- it would take quite a bit of time to get used to alternate tunings and time is already at a premium with my practicing trumpet for 2 1/2 hours every day after work. Perhaps it is an excuse- one could say if I was really motivated I would make time. But I'd need a reason to get motivated to be able to overcome the muscle memory No muscle memory to overcome--just use what you have. You already do the things you'd need. of course you don't have to do it--but just saying... I'd need a catalyst to really try alternate tunings again... |
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Post by zontar on Feb 24, 2021 6:30:14 GMT
No muscle memory to overcome--just use what you have. You already do the things you'd need. of course you don't have to do it--but just saying... I'd need a catalyst to really try alternate tunings again... Oh, just go for it. Good to challenge yourself. Or don't. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 24, 2021 12:34:34 GMT
I'd need a catalyst to really try alternate tunings again... Oh, just go for it. Good to challenge yourself. Or don't. Well, we shall see... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 2:29:00 GMT
Well, if you're going to do G tuning, it's worth a few minutes to listen to one of the gurus......
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Post by zontar on Feb 28, 2021 7:31:57 GMT
Well, if you're going to do G tuning, it's worth a few minutes to listen to one of the gurus...... Can't hurt, although it is a different style than I normally play |
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