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Post by zontar on Jan 18, 2021 7:08:28 GMT
Just saw this online--and it looks cool--but currently it only works for 6 a side headstocks--so the Canadian price with Shipping makes it not really worth it for me, with only my Mustang that I could use it on. but it is a cool idea I have no affiliation with this--but will keep an eye in case they have three a side or a bass version (2x2) -and if I could get one locally. But sharing it in case anybody is interested. If a clip on tuner bothers you while playing, but you like have the option to use it between songs--well it makes sense that way as well Tuninja
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Post by johnreardon on Jan 18, 2021 10:57:19 GMT
That looks a good idea. Shame no Les Paul ones yet
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 18, 2021 14:23:30 GMT
It's a neat idea for those of you who hate showing the clip
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Post by zontar on Jan 19, 2021 0:22:44 GMT
That looks a good idea. Shame no Les Paul ones yet If they had one that worked on both they could sell a lot if marketed well
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 19, 2021 0:27:43 GMT
That looks a good idea. Shame no Les Paul ones yet If they had one that worked on both they could sell a lot if marketed well Would have cleaned up John's BBC4 picture too!
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Post by Bill h on Jan 22, 2021 16:25:10 GMT
It looks like a really good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 18:05:00 GMT
I have to admit to being a bit of a snob as far as tuners go - If it ain't a Peterson, it's inferior.
However, as regular non-Peterson tuners go, that looks like a great idea. I'd guess that it's only a matter of time before that company develops a model to fit 3+3 headstocks. I wonder what effect (if any)the magnet clip that keeps it in place has on the machine heads and strings.
Nice to see some original thinking going on.....There are way too many companies producing me-too products.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 22, 2021 18:47:07 GMT
I have to admit to being a bit of a snob as far as tuners go - If it ain't a Peterson, it's inferior. However, as regular non-Peterson tuners go, that looks like a great idea. I'd guess that it's only a matter of time before that company develops a model to fit 3+3 headstocks. I wonder what effect (if any)the magnet clip that keeps it in place has on the machine heads and strings. Nice to see some original thinking going on.....There are way too many companies producing me-too products. I have a Peterson Stroboclip and for sure they are accurate- but you don't you find them difficult to use on stage?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 19:18:21 GMT
I have to admit to being a bit of a snob as far as tuners go - If it ain't a Peterson, it's inferior. However, as regular non-Peterson tuners go, that looks like a great idea. I'd guess that it's only a matter of time before that company develops a model to fit 3+3 headstocks. I wonder what effect (if any)the magnet clip that keeps it in place has on the machine heads and strings. Nice to see some original thinking going on.....There are way too many companies producing me-too products. I have a Peterson Stroboclip and for sure they are accurate- but you don't you find them difficult to use on stage? I can imagine they'd be a bit trickier on-stage or at home if you're using guitars with regular machine heads. However, using Steinberger machine heads on my guitars, the ratio is 40:1 (rather than 12:1 or 18:1 like a regular machine head) so it's really easy to tune up to pitch without overshooting because there's such a gradual change as you tighten the string, and there's absolutely no back-lash as there could be on a regular machine head. I guess that's more a telling thing about machine heads than electronic tuners, but if the machine heads are premium quality, the StroboFlip is super-easy to use. Of course, it goes without saying that with the Steinbergers, chances are good that the guitar will have held it's pitch whether you're transporting or playing, so retuning's not likely going to be required.
(Note that I've made a distinction between the tuning heads on the headstock and electronic tuning devices by referring to the tuning pegs on the headstock as machine heads to avoid any confusion)
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 22, 2021 20:10:29 GMT
I have a Peterson Stroboclip and for sure they are accurate- but you don't you find them difficult to use on stage? I can imagine they'd be a bit trickier on-stage or at home if you're using guitars with regular machine heads. However, using Steinberger machine heads on my guitars, the ratio is 40:1 (rather than 12:1 or 18:1 like a regular machine head) so it's really easy to tune up to pitch without overshooting because there's such a gradual change as you tighten the string, and there's absolutely no back-lash as there could be on a regular machine head. I guess that's more a telling thing about machine heads than electronic tuners, but if the machine heads are premium quality, the StroboFlip is super-easy to use. Of course, it goes without saying that with the Steinbergers, chances are good that the guitar will have held it's pitch whether you're transporting or playing, so retuning's not likely going to be required.
(Note that I've made a distinction between the tuning heads on the headstock and electronic tuning devices by referring to the tuning pegs on the headstock as machine heads to avoid any confusion)
I never tried Steinberger tuners, but that makes sense with the gear ratios. I find with my guitars I'm just messing around too much with the Peterson and the less accurate Snarks get me into rough tuning quickly. I'm usually tuning the guitar between songs while I am talking to the audience so I am only half paying attention when I am tuning
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Post by zontar on Jan 23, 2021 7:06:02 GMT
I have to admit to being a bit of a snob as far as tuners go - If it ain't a Peterson, it's inferior. However, as regular non-Peterson tuners go, that looks like a great idea. I'd guess that it's only a matter of time before that company develops a model to fit 3+3 headstocks. I wonder what effect (if any)the magnet clip that keeps it in place has on the machine heads and strings. Nice to see some original thinking going on.....There are way too many companies producing me-too products. I'd love to have a Conn Strobotuner But they don't make them anymore and the ones I've seen for sale don't come cheap. I've seen these on the side of the stage where a guitar etc is using it. It's more for studio and set up oriented.
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Post by johnreardon on Jan 23, 2021 9:20:30 GMT
I have to admit to being a bit of a snob as far as tuners go - If it ain't a Peterson, it's inferior. However, as regular non-Peterson tuners go, that looks like a great idea. I'd guess that it's only a matter of time before that company develops a model to fit 3+3 headstocks. I wonder what effect (if any)the magnet clip that keeps it in place has on the machine heads and strings. Nice to see some original thinking going on.....There are way too many companies producing me-too products. I have a Peterson Stroboclip and for sure they are accurate- but you don't you find them difficult to use on stage? Yes. used to have one and it was a pain when gigging. Took way too long. Gave it to my son and just use the TC clip on which is plenty accurate for me.
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Post by zontar on Jan 23, 2021 9:21:45 GMT
I have the Peterson & TC tuning apps on my phone--and I prefer the TC one.
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Post by johnreardon on Jan 23, 2021 9:27:03 GMT
I have the Peterson & TC tuning apps on my phone--and I prefer the TC one. For me playing mainly lead, it doesn't really matter too much about being perfectly in tune. I can always bend stuff up
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Post by zontar on Jan 23, 2021 9:35:55 GMT
I have the Peterson & TC tuning apps on my phone--and I prefer the TC one. For me playing mainly lead, it doesn't really matter too much about being perfectly in tune. I can always bend stuff up While it's better to be in tune--yeah that can work--similar idea playing slide or fretless.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 23, 2021 14:47:56 GMT
I have to admit to being a bit of a snob as far as tuners go - If it ain't a Peterson, it's inferior. However, as regular non-Peterson tuners go, that looks like a great idea. I'd guess that it's only a matter of time before that company develops a model to fit 3+3 headstocks. I wonder what effect (if any)the magnet clip that keeps it in place has on the machine heads and strings. Nice to see some original thinking going on.....There are way too many companies producing me-too products. I'd love to have a Conn Strobotuner But they don't make them anymore and the ones I've seen for sale don't come cheap. I've seen these on the side of the stage where a guitar etc is using it. It's more for studio and set up oriented. Now that's quite a unit!
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 23, 2021 14:49:29 GMT
I have the Peterson & TC tuning apps on my phone--and I prefer the TC one. For me playing mainly lead, it doesn't really matter too much about being perfectly in tune. I can always bend stuff up For me it is a bit more important being as in tune as possible because if I am out of tune, all the horns will sound very bad. As strictly a rhythm player I never bend
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 16:19:21 GMT
When I started assembling guitars I began to want better electronic tuners for setting intonation. When I bought my Peterson StroboFlip, I was shocked at the differences it picked out that standard tuners just ignored. Occasionally, just out of laziness, I've used the built-in electronic tuner in my Strat. It'll certainly get close, but the guitar never sounds quite right. If I then hook up the Peterson tuner, it'll find things, particularly on the G and B strings that aren't apparent on the Strat tuner. And, in the end, the Strat sounds sweeter when it's tuned with the better tuner.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 23, 2021 17:45:29 GMT
When I started assembling guitars I began to want better electronic tuners for setting intonation. When I bought my Peterson StroboFlip, I was shocked at the differences it picked out that standard tuners just ignored. Occasionally, just out of laziness, I've used the built-in electronic tuner in my Strat. It'll certainly get close, but the guitar never sounds quite right. If I then hook up the Peterson tuner, it'll find things, particularly on the G and B strings that aren't apparent on the Strat tuner. And, in the end, the Strat sounds sweeter when it's tuned with the better tuner. I never tried the stroboflip, that's the bigger one, right?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 20:07:16 GMT
Yeah, the StroboFlip's a bit bigger. I thought it was particularly appropriate for me, building guitars, because it's well suited to use on a counter or bench, and the hinged lid will adjust to any angle, so it's easy to see when you're working on an instrument. I really like the fact that it came with a bracket that made it easy to clip onto a mike stand at whatever height is comfortable. When I used it at home, just for playing, I'd clip it onto the pole lamp that sat next to my Twin Reverb The StroboFlip has a lot of extra features that aren't absolutely essential but are nice to have. There are a selection of sweetened tuning that are tweaked to compensate for the untempered nature of a guitar and that lend themselves to particular styles of music and the tendency to play certain genres on different positions on the neck. There are other things too... the ability to tweak the tuning so if you're someone who likes the idea of A432 tuning rather than standard A440, it'll do that. Also a specific twelve-string tuning mode, a bass tuning mode, the Buzz Feiten tuning system and tunings for other instruments. They don't make that model anymore which is really a pity. Now, you need to get into the professional models that cost multi-thousand dollars to get some of those features.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 23, 2021 20:54:13 GMT
Yeah, the StroboFlip's a bit bigger. I thought it was particularly appropriate for me, building guitars, because it's well suited to use on a counter or bench, and the hinged lid will adjust to any angle, so it's easy to see when you're working on an instrument. I really like the fact that it came with a bracket that made it easy to clip onto a mike stand at whatever height is comfortable. When I used it at home, just for playing, I'd clip it onto the pole lamp that sat next to my Twin Reverb The StroboFlip has a lot of extra features that aren't absolutely essential but are nice to have. There are a selection of sweetened tuning that are tweaked to compensate for the untempered nature of a guitar and that lend themselves to particular styles of music and the tendency to play certain genres on different positions on the neck. There are other things too... the ability to tweak the tuning so if you're someone who likes the idea of A432 tuning rather than standard A440, it'll do that. Also a specific twelve-string tuning mode, a bass tuning mode, the Buzz Feiten tuning system and tunings for other instruments. They don't make that model anymore which is really a pity. Now, you need to get into the professional models that cost multi-thousand dollars to get some of those features. It is really neat, much more advanced that my stroboclip. Actually I bought mine for 2 reasons: 1- intonation 2- as you mentioned above you can change the tuning to other instruments. My son and I used to drill on trumpet with tuners to make sure we were in the middle of pitches and the Peterson allows you to set the tuning to Bb. This allowed him to see that he was playing a D for trumpet, instead of showing concert C. It was also frustrating that the snark always showed an A# instead of Bb. It is rare that a trumpet player would consider a Bb as A# for a tuning note
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 0:44:42 GMT
I'd love to have a Conn Strobotuner But they don't make them anymore and the ones I've seen for sale don't come cheap. I've seen these on the side of the stage where a guitar etc is using it. It's more for studio and set up oriented. Now that's quite a unit! Well that's why you probably wouldn't see it right on the stage. They work great--if I found a decently priced one for sale I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 24, 2021 1:08:42 GMT
Well that's why you probably wouldn't see it right on the stage. They work great--if I found a decently priced one for sale I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. Heck it would be neat to have just because of how it looks. Looks like some sort of military test equipment
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 1:11:06 GMT
Well that's why you probably wouldn't see it right on the stage. They work great--if I found a decently priced one for sale I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. Heck it would be neat to have just because of how it looks. Looks like some sort of military test equipment The ones I've seen seem to sturdy. But I wouldn't really put it to the test--just in case. I do believe some of Peterson's products have been at least partially based on it. And with good reason, if they were.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 24, 2021 1:15:58 GMT
Heck it would be neat to have just because of how it looks. Looks like some sort of military test equipment The ones I've seen seem to sturdy. But I wouldn't really put it to the test--just in case. I do believe some of Peterson's products have been at least partially based on it. And with good reason, if they were. It certainly LOOKS sturdy. How much do they go for?
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 1:20:45 GMT
The ones I've seen seem to sturdy. But I wouldn't really put it to the test--just in case. I do believe some of Peterson's products have been at least partially based on it. And with good reason, if they were. It certainly LOOKS sturdy. How much do they go for? Last time I checked $300-700 Canadian-and normally s I see them only online--also shipping. Depending on year. model, condition & seller's greed (at least int he higher ranges) You do sometimes see them for less. If I gigged or did guitar repairs or construction, etc, the lower end of that range would be worth it. but for a home guitarist who sometimes plays with friends and at church-- when there isn't a pandemic--that just feels a bit steep. Still if I ever find one in person I would consider $300 or so. if I saw one closer to $200--then No-brainer territory
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 1:22:13 GMT
The ones I've seen seem to sturdy. But I wouldn't really put it to the test--just in case. I do believe some of Peterson's products have been at least partially based on it. And with good reason, if they were. It certainly LOOKS sturdy. How much do they go for? The ones on eBay right now, in that model pictured, range from 508.00 to 629.00. Cheaper than I would have imagined.
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 1:32:29 GMT
It certainly LOOKS sturdy. How much do they go for? The ones on eBay right now, in that model pictured, range from 508.00 to 629.00. Cheaper than I would have imagined. So within the range I've seen. Too pricey for me. I am okay with the thought I'll probably never own one.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 24, 2021 1:37:48 GMT
Maybe you could find one locally on Craigslist. $600-$700 is a darn lot. Even $300 seems like a lot
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 1:40:36 GMT
Maybe you could find one locally on Craigslist. $600-$700 is a darn lot. Even $300 seems like a lot And thus not owning one.
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