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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 7:47:00 GMT
Okay- I won't be super technical, and different companies will use different terminology so I will more descriptive.
Pick 1 or 2 that you like the best, and maybe share why.
(We have had some discussion on this before I believe (Unless I'm confusing it with somewhere else) but in any case we can have it in one place, and maybe get more involved)
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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 7:55:52 GMT
Some guidelines to the choices (if you wish to clarify, add to or dispute any of these--please feel free to do so) Dreadnought: Usually square shouldered-Dreadnoughts variant were designed by C.F. Martin and Company in 1916. It is larger, bolder, and louder than small acoustic guitars that were played back then. Jumbo: round cornered & large-Think most large Gibson guitars like the SJ (Super Jumbo) variants
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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 8:03:23 GMT
Some possible size comparisons:
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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 8:09:43 GMT
Some guidelines to the choices (if you wish to clarify, add to or dispute any of these--please feel free to do so)
Concert size--smaller than the Dreadnought & Jumbo. Often favoured more by finger style players over those guitars and often a bigger difference between upper & lower bouts than on a Dread or Jumbo. Auditorium --midsized guitar--with Martins it might be designated 0000 or Grand Auditorium by some makers Orchestra -some makers group this with Auditorium--but others have a different size -maybe a wider waist. Parlour--small--some consider these kids' guitars (Although that is something I'd group above under other.) they were once the most common type & were considered something women played in the parlour -but went beyond that)
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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 8:15:02 GMT
Some guidelines to the choices (if you wish to clarify, add to or dispute any of these--please feel free to do so)
Oddball - for this poll anything that is not within the regular acoustic guitar shape--soem are novelties, but some are serious--so acoustic guitars designed to mimic the look of a solid body guitar would be included here. (I've seen Flying V acoustics for example)-or anything else that defies these categories, but is indeed an acoustic guitar
Other-different than oddball-this is the option to vote for if your preference is something like a classical, flamenco, arch top acoustic, Weissenborn, etc. It doesn't defy the categories like oddball, but is still different.
Non cutaway - you can use this option if an acoustic guitar with a cutaway is anathema to you (even ion you are okay with others using them)
Cutaway-you can use this if a castaway is essential to you using/buying an acoustic-or if it is a strong preference
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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 8:22:42 GMT
To clarify This one is Other: this is oddball: this is other: (Notice the lack of pickups) This is oddball and then some: if you aren't sure--make the best chic you can--and let us know in a post. Thanks,
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Post by johnreardon on Dec 22, 2020 10:35:10 GMT
Really no preference. Don't use the acoustic much. I prefer to twiddle on my Strat unplugged. I usually use the acoustic to lay down the first rhythm track for any recording, so as I have just started doing something, I had better get it out of the case
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Post by infant on Dec 22, 2020 14:23:18 GMT
I have a Martin D16GT. It’s a loud dreadnaught with a big bottom which is something I like. It’s great when standing but I find Dreds to be a bit too big when seated as I get a sore shoulder from reaching over top of the body. That’s why I like the Concert or grand concert. A little smaller which means not as big sounding. My son has a concert sized Taylor and it’s very easy to play. However, I still love my Martin.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 22, 2020 14:50:54 GMT
I like jumbo noncutaway for acoustics. That's what my Rainsong is and it has a massive sound
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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 19:16:19 GMT
I have a Martin D16GT. It’s a loud dreadnaught with a big bottom which is something I like. It’s great when standing but I find Dreds to be a bit too big when seated as I get a sore shoulder from reaching over top of the body. That’s why I like the Concert or grand concert. A little smaller which means not as big sounding. My son has a concert sized Taylor and it’s very easy to play. However, I still love my Martin. I have the same sort of issue with Dreads There have been times I have injured my shoulder & they have been tough, if not painful to play If I ever injure it & don’t fully recover, it’s possible I won’t be able to play dreads & jumbos I do find them easier to play standing But I get why people like them and use them
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 22, 2020 20:10:33 GMT
Really no preference. Don't use the acoustic much. I prefer to twiddle on my Strat unplugged. I usually use the acoustic to lay down the first rhythm track for any recording, so as I have just started doing something, I had better get it out of the case My acoustic is the stand guitar during winter months. I really only play it when practicing with my daughter or when I am trying to figure out chords on a lead sheet where the chord names are missjng
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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 21:08:26 GMT
I enjoy playing my 12 string, but my smaller bodied classical guitar is easier to play
It is possible I will get a smaller bodied acoustic at some point Probably not a parlour, but also not a dread or jumbo
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Post by Bill h on Dec 22, 2020 21:09:31 GMT
We have a couple of fender t-buckets we use as campfire guitars. My wife has a Yari Alvarez which is really nice. Size wise I like dreadnoughts. I like cutaways as well.
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Post by infant on Dec 22, 2020 21:38:50 GMT
I still have a ‘72 Ovation Balladeer that’s become my camping/ picnic / poolside guitar (I don’t have a pool), but if I leave an acoustic on the stand it’s gonna be the Martin.and not the Ovation.
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Post by zontar on Dec 22, 2020 21:59:20 GMT
I guess Ovation could be in Other, with their curved backs
I find them awkward, even on a strap, due to the bowled back (I do like bowled back mandolins)
But I know some people who love Ovations
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Post by Sgt Rock on Dec 22, 2020 22:02:51 GMT
I like my 1974 Alverez. it's a dreadnought with plenty of sound. when I was buying it,I had played a Martin and a Gibson comparing the three. the Alverez won out. as far as easy playing, my '72 Framus is very easy to play.
when my daughter graduated from high school, I bought her a Fender acoustic. of course, it had to be pink. it's easy to play and has a very good sound.
all 3 are dreadnoughts. any other shape just doesn't appeal to me.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 23, 2020 1:42:35 GMT
We have a couple of fender t-buckets we use as campfire guitars. My wife has a Yari Alvarez which is really nice. Size wise I like dreadnoughts. I like cutaways as well. I should clarify. For playability I do prefer cutaways, but I like my Acoustic to be non-cutaway because I want maximum volume. I never plug it in
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 23, 2020 1:43:52 GMT
I guess Ovation could be in Other, with their curved backs I find them awkward, even on a strap, due to the bowled back (I do like bowled back mandolins) But I know some people who love Ovations I also find the curved backs to be tough to deal with. Someone offered me a nice ovation but it kept sliding off my knee!
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Post by zontar on Dec 23, 2020 2:11:00 GMT
I guess Ovation could be in Other, with their curved backs I find them awkward, even on a strap, due to the bowled back (I do like bowled back mandolins) But I know some people who love Ovations I also find the curved backs to be tough to deal with. Someone offered me a nice ovation but it kept sliding off my knee! That's the biggest issue for me, but even standing with it on a strap it moves around on me. But if you have a different body--maybe it won't.
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Post by Bill h on Dec 23, 2020 2:33:39 GMT
I’ve always liked ovation/applause guitars. They play really well.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 23, 2020 3:05:41 GMT
I’ve always liked ovation/applause guitars. They play really well. Thosd curved backs are just something to get used to...
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Post by Bill h on Dec 23, 2020 3:10:17 GMT
I’ve always liked ovation/applause guitars. They play really well. Thosd curved backs are just something to get used to... For some reason the curved back really doesn’t bother me when I sit and play one.
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Post by Sgt Rock on Dec 23, 2020 5:05:33 GMT
I guess Ovation could be in Other, with their curved backs I find them awkward, even on a strap, due to the bowled back (I do like bowled back mandolins) But I know some people who love Ovations I also find the curved backs to be tough to deal with. Someone offered me a nice ovation but it kept sliding off my knee! I've never cared for Ovations because of the curved backs. I don't like guitars that I have to fight to play.
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Post by zontar on Dec 23, 2020 5:58:37 GMT
Thosd curved backs are just something to get used to... For some reason the curved back really doesn’t bother me when I sit and play one. Well they have to work for some people or nobody would play them.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 23, 2020 15:38:24 GMT
They definitely have their following. I'm sure once you are used to it, it is fine
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 5:50:03 GMT
I’ve always liked ovation/applause guitars. They play really well. Yep, I've only had one...An Ovation Applause 12 string that I bought in a weak moment. It was nice to play....Not nearly as awkward as some of the 12 strings I've owned. However, all 12 strings suffer a similar fate once I own them....I play the hell out of them for a few days, or at best a few weeks, and then they become stand queens that I look at but hardly ever pick up. I do appreciate Ovations for what they are.....I played in a three piece band in the 70's where the guitar player sold his ES335 and replaced it with an Ovation. I was really dubious, but he played some really fine rock and roll with that guitar.
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Post by zontar on Dec 24, 2020 7:44:41 GMT
I’ve always liked ovation/applause guitars. They play really well. Yep, I've only had one...An Ovation Applause 12 string that I bought in a weak moment. It was nice to play....Not nearly as awkward as some of the 12 strings I've owned. However, all 12 strings suffer a similar fate once I own them....I play the hell out of them for a few days, or at best a few weeks, and then they become stand queens that I look at but hardly ever pick up. I do appreciate Ovations for what they are.....I played in a three piece band in the 70's where the guitar player sold his ES335 and replaced it with an Ovation. I was really dubious, but he played some really fine rock and roll with that guitar. You should get a good look at the cedar top of my Simon & Patrick 12 string.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 24, 2020 15:08:56 GMT
I’ve always liked ovation/applause guitars. They play really well. However, all 12 strings suffer a similar fate once I own them....I play the hell out of them for a few days, or at best a few weeks, and then they become stand queens Same for for me. I had a yamaha 12 string. At the beginning I played it constantly then it never got played. Sold it a friend who was super happy to have it
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Post by zontar on Dec 26, 2020 8:22:38 GMT
However, all 12 strings suffer a similar fate once I own them....I play the hell out of them for a few days, or at best a few weeks, and then they become stand queens Same for for me. I had a yamaha 12 string. At the beginning I played it constantly then it never got played. Sold it a friend who was super happy to have it I played mine quite a bit when I first got it--btu then that's probably true of most of my gear--first get it--overuse it.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 26, 2020 15:54:57 GMT
I think you play all Barre chords like I do, 12 strings aren't the best choice. I do love the sound, however
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