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Post by Colchar on Feb 25, 2016 7:51:21 GMT
Since my timing stinks I decided tonight to finally sit down and use a metronome. Fuck I hate that thing. When I am playing something that includes both quarter and eighth notes I find that setting the metronome to eighth notes causes me to pay too much attention to the beeps/clicks. It can actually be a bit discombobulating. So instead I set it to quarter notes and just hope that the notes that I am playing on the '&' are properly in time. I find it easier when it is set to quarter notes but damn, I still hate the fucking thing. Maybe if my timing was better I wouldn't mind it so much but, right now, I want to throw it out the damned window. I'm sure you've all been there at some point. I think I might dig out old guitar lesson books and use the simple exercises in those to get used to the metronome and, once I am more comfortable with it, I can go back to playing normal stuff while using it. Maybe that will make me hate it less  |
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Post by Bill h on Feb 25, 2016 15:50:49 GMT
That's what I would have to do if I started practicing with a metronome. I don't know, i think it would be more fun to light one on fire.
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Post by Mindfrigg on Feb 25, 2016 16:14:22 GMT
Last time I used a metronome was like 1973.  I bought a Univox MiniKorg with some money from selling pot in 1974. Then went from there. Programmed a kick sound and stuck a heavy pick in the keyboard to trigger the sample and hold. If you'll recall Keith Emerson would stick a knife in his keyboard to do that. Get some software for your computer to get a drum backing. Or there are pedals now with programmed drum beats. A hell of a lot more inspiring. it's good practice to keep time with a toe tap. That's pre-midi technique.  You really need to engage more of your body in time keeping. Your brain is not enough until you've incorporated it and it becomes second nature. |
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Post by Grand Toad on Feb 25, 2016 18:13:07 GMT
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Post by Maxwell on Feb 27, 2016 3:21:22 GMT
Love a good metronome....
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Post by Colchar on Feb 27, 2016 4:31:00 GMT
Love a good metronome.... Sick bastard. |
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Post by Maxwell on Feb 27, 2016 5:08:34 GMT
Glutton for punishment...  |
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Post by Mindfrigg on Feb 27, 2016 5:40:29 GMT
Found my very nice maple metronome in storage the other day. Had it since the '60s. Ruined by moisture. The universe is trying to tell me something.
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Post by Maxwell on Feb 27, 2016 15:06:19 GMT
Metronome is a great invention. It illuminates the tendency to hear what you play in your head and NOT what you are actually playing.
Nothing is more unforgiving than a metronome. It will spank you like a redheaded stepchild...no matter how good you are.
Slip once and it will light you up....
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Post by Colchar on Feb 27, 2016 16:51:15 GMT
Mine is smacking me stupid.........
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Post by johnnyn on Mar 2, 2016 18:45:36 GMT
I can't say that I'm using a Metronome a lot, but it's is actually a great tool.
I have a Korg MA1 and it can do a lot of different rhythms, and have a volume control which is very useful.
I adjust the volume between the metronome and guitar so I don't hear the metronome when I play in the pocket, but hear it clearly if I'm not in time.
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Post by Bill h on Mar 3, 2016 3:40:25 GMT
I can't say that I'm using a Metronome a lot, but it's is actually a great tool. I have a Korg MA1 and it can do a lot of different rhythms, and have a volume control which is very useful. I adjust the volume between the metronome and guitar so I don't hear the metronome when I play in the pocket, but hear it clearly if I'm not in time. I've never really used a metronome. Wish I would have. |
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Post by Laggspike on Mar 3, 2016 4:05:28 GMT
download a drum sample in whatever tempo you want or do you want me to make some for ya? makes everything easyer to play with instead of hearing tick-tock all the time. |
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Post by Colchar on Mar 3, 2016 4:21:08 GMT
download a drum sample in whatever tempo you want or do you want me to make some for ya? makes everything easyer to play with instead of hearing tick-tock all the time. I have some downloaded but haven't used them yet. If they suck or the files don't work I'll let you know. |
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Post by Laggspike on Mar 3, 2016 5:10:59 GMT
download a drum sample in whatever tempo you want or do you want me to make some for ya? makes everything easyer to play with instead of hearing tick-tock all the time. I have some downloaded but haven't used them yet. If they suck or the files don't work I'll let you know. sure thing |
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 2, 2020 18:07:35 GMT
I don't typically use a metronome for guitar playing because my timing is good- it has to be since I often cover the entire rhythm section of the band.
However for playing trumpet/ baritone horn I do need the metronome to assist with syncopated rhythms on unfamiliar sheet music.
I have a Wittner pyramid metronome, but I must admit that the electronic Korg TM-60 is far more useful.
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Post by Sinster on Dec 4, 2020 15:07:14 GMT
I force myself to use a metronome because my timing sucks.
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Post by Sgt Rock on Dec 4, 2020 15:14:12 GMT
when I first started playing, I tried to use a metronome. it took up too much time. so, to this day it's sitting in the box that it came in.  |
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 4, 2020 21:15:19 GMT
Admittedly, practicing to a metronome on guitar is a very unfulfilling exercise as the metronome is absolutely unforgiving. It isn't much more fun with brass/ other instruments but a little easier to follow when you are playing the melody in notes, not comping chords.
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Post by Bill h on Dec 5, 2020 3:39:40 GMT
I have myself convinced I have a decent sense of time. I don’t want to shatter my confidence by playing with a metronome 🥴
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Post by zontar on Dec 5, 2020 9:27:28 GMT
What I don't like about using a metronome is that it keeps making mistakes--like coming in early or late or spending up/slowing down.  |
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Post by johnreardon on Dec 5, 2020 9:52:25 GMT
What I don't like about using a metronome is that it keeps making mistakes--like coming in early or late or spending up/slowing down. Bit morbid but made me laugh at a memory.
Back in 2014, one of our drummers passed away suddenly from a heart attack. Anyway, his wife wanted us to play at his funeral, acoustically. The funeral was held in Romsey Abbey, which is not far from Southampton on our South Coast.
We had decided to do 'Bring It On Home To Me', the old Sam Cooke song. Four of us were positioned at the front on the left of this pic. Guitars were un-amplified, just a mic for the singer, going through their PA.
The Abbey was packed with friends and relatives from his large family. The Vicar lady introduced us and...I cocked up the beginning. We all stopped and I turned round to the coffin and blamed Phil, the drummer, for not counting us in. After a slight hush, the crowd laughed, which sort of made it better. We started again and they loved it.
The Abbey
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 3:02:53 GMT
I've never owned a metronome or played with one. The closest I come is that one of my keyboards has a built-in rhythm master that can be programmed for different beats and tempo and occasionally I play with it.
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 6, 2020 12:53:53 GMT
What I don't like about using a metronome is that it keeps making mistakes--like coming in early or late or spending up/slowing down. Ha ha- We need to write to Korg to complain! |
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Post by zontar on Dec 7, 2020 5:58:50 GMT
I've never owned a metronome or played with one. The closest I come is that one of my keyboards has a built-in rhythm master that can be programmed for different beats and tempo and occasionally I play with it. My Fender G-Dec Jr has backing tracks with drums & optional bass line for various playing styles. I guess that's something I use sometimes. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 16, 2020 1:45:11 GMT
Does the gdec have advanced metronome functions like odd meters or is it mainly 4/4?
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Post by zontar on Dec 16, 2020 3:31:57 GMT
Does the gdec have advanced metronome functions like odd meters or is it mainly 4/4? I don't know about the higher models, but the G-Dec Jr has several genres/styles for the drums-with the option to add bass, change the tempo and the volume. They are basically loops so the meter is whatever matches the style you've chosen. They aren't all 4/4. There are 15 choices, plus a MIDI in (Which I've never used) the choices include 3/4, 5/4, and a click track. You also get a variety of styles as well. It's fun that way--and one of the reasons I got it. Some people put these down--btu I bought out primarily s practice amp--so the loops are a good feature. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 16, 2020 16:50:14 GMT
That's pretty neat. 5/4 is a bear to play to
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Post by zontar on Dec 17, 2020 6:15:28 GMT
That's pretty neat. 5/4 is a bear to play to I don't use that one much--mostly the 4/4 & 6/8 ones. But sometimes I'll pick one at random or I'll go through each one and improvise over each one for at least 8 bars. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Dec 17, 2020 12:54:56 GMT
The vast majority of songs fall in the 2/2, 2/4, 4/4 (all related) and 3/4, 6/8 meters anyway.
Although take a look at some of Burt Bacharach's music. Many songs are 4/4 peppered with 1/4 or 3/4 measures- it is a real drummer killer
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You really need to engage more of your body in time keeping. Your brain is not enough until you've incorporated it and it becomes second nature.
