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Post by Colchar on Dec 4, 2015 16:50:49 GMT
I know there are some members here who are accomplished slide players but I am wondering if there is anyone else here who is new to slide/just learning how to play slide?
If so it might be interesting to share tips, discuss our progress, exchange info on learning resources, etc.
So is anyone else doing this or is it just me?
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Post by melvindale on Dec 4, 2015 18:07:58 GMT
I've been known to try it periodically but, with less than desirable results.
I've heard it said practice until you can stand it - not there yet.
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Post by Colchar on Dec 4, 2015 19:07:50 GMT
My slide attempts still sound something akin to a cat caught in a blender  |
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Post by Grand Toad on Dec 4, 2015 23:41:11 GMT
Warren Haynes - Guide to Slide Guitar is very good, and it's in standard tuning.
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Post by Colchar on Dec 5, 2015 1:05:11 GMT
I haven't tried slide in Standard yet. I currently have David Hamburger's acoustic slide instruction book. I am considering getting another. Might be something to add to my Christmas list. I am currently considering this one: www.amazon.com/Bays-Getting-into-Slide-Guitar/dp/0786668016/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1449277381&sr=1-1&keywords=9780786668014David Hamburger (man, he must really have suffered in school because of that name) has an electric slide book too but I expect that it might be too similar to his acoustic one to be worth spending money on. Unfortunately, they aren't available in any local stores so I can't check it out without ordering through Amazon. As such, I think I'll just order the one linked above. |
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Post by Bill h on Dec 6, 2015 20:26:27 GMT
Warren Haynes - Guide to Slide Guitar is very good, and it's in standard tuning. That's an interesting point, I've dinked with slide in standard tuning but I know there are slide tunings that will make you sound like something right away. Learning in standard tuning is tougher but more useful to me. |
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Post by Grand Toad on Dec 6, 2015 20:31:43 GMT
Warren Haynes - Guide to Slide Guitar is very good, and it's in standard tuning. That's an interesting point, I've dinked with slide in standard tuning but I know there are slide tunings that will make you sound like something right away. Learning in standard tuning is tougher but more useful to me. I only have two electric guitars. I had to learn to use standard tuning. One can get away with a lot by using the B, G, and D strings. It's just a matter of practicing. I prefer to play slide in Open E, but never had time to retune, in the last band I was in, so I just had to go for it. |
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Post by Catfish on Dec 6, 2015 23:46:13 GMT
Anything I can do to help, guys let me know.  General advice: play lapstyle at first. Easier to get the pressure and vibrato right. Right hand: one finger for each of the smallest four strings, thumb covers the A and big E. Think of your fingers as piano mallets; pluck the relevant string to produce sound, otherwise set it on the string to mute. |
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Post by roberteaux on Dec 12, 2015 7:26:57 GMT
No slide for me as of yet... though I do remain interested in playing with one sooner or later.
Just trying hard to develop some chops as a common guitarist at this moment in time. I think that's gonna continue to be the case for quite a while, too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 18:39:12 GMT
the hardest part of slide, is walking back up the hill when you hit the bottom.
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Post by Maxwell on Dec 19, 2015 18:57:07 GMT
I like playing slide even though for the most part it sounds like I'm baptizing a cat...
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Post by Schidney on Dec 19, 2015 20:02:16 GMT
I know there are some members here who are accomplished slide players but I am wondering if there is anyone else here who is new to slide.just learning how to play slide? If so it might be interesting to share tips, discuss our progress, exchange info on learning resources, etc. So is anyone else doing this or is it just me? Would have to be Tommo for all my Sliding needs. The chap to go to if in doubt. |
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Post by Grand Toad on Dec 19, 2015 20:48:57 GMT
Funny, with me, anyway, when I started playing slide when I was 18, I just did it. Listened to Duane a lot, and just went for it.
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Post by Grand Toad on Dec 21, 2015 5:54:24 GMT
Another slide player I listened to a lot was Ronnie Wood. I learned "That's All You Need" back a long time ago. He's sloppy, but it sounds really cool.
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Post by Grand Toad on Dec 21, 2015 5:57:49 GMT
Another thing about learning anything on guitar. Unless it's way beyond my ability (John McLaughlin, Al DiMeola), if someone tells me I'm not good enough to do something, I take it as a challenge and go learn it. That's the only reason I learned "Highway Star!" Some guy said I couldn't do it, so I did.
Feck 'em, and prove 'em wrong.
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Post by Bill h on Dec 23, 2015 23:24:49 GMT
Another thing about learning anything on guitar. Unless it's way beyond my ability (John McLaughlin, Al DiMeola), if someone tells me I'm not good enough to do something, I take it as a challenge and go learn it. That's the only reason I learned "Highway Star!" Some guy said I couldn't do it, so I did. Feck 'em, and prove 'em wrong. Any person that tells you your not good enough isn't a person you want be around anyway. |
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Post by Colchar on Dec 24, 2015 3:59:14 GMT
Anything I can do to help, guys let me know. General advice: play lapstyle at first. Easier to get the pressure and vibrato right. Right hand: one finger for each of the smallest four strings, thumb covers the A and big E. Think of your fingers as piano mallets; pluck the relevant string to produce sound, otherwise set it on the string to mute. Are you saying to pluck with all four fingers? I am using them to mute but pluck damned near everything with my first finger. I saw it taught that way in a video and I think that one of the books I have suggests it too. I can see benefits to both approaches. |
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Post by Colchar on Dec 24, 2015 4:00:31 GMT
I know there are some members here who are accomplished slide players but I am wondering if there is anyone else here who is new to slide.just learning how to play slide? If so it might be interesting to share tips, discuss our progress, exchange info on learning resources, etc. So is anyone else doing this or is it just me? Would have to be Tommo for all my Sliding needs. The chap to go to if in doubt. I've spoken to Tom via PM and email on a few occasions. He has been extremely gracious in his willingness to help. If only the bugger didn't live so damned far away I'd be hiring him as a slide teacher! |
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Post by Catfish on Dec 24, 2015 15:46:50 GMT
Anything I can do to help, guys let me know. General advice: play lapstyle at first. Easier to get the pressure and vibrato right. Right hand: one finger for each of the smallest four strings, thumb covers the A and big E. Think of your fingers as piano mallets; pluck the relevant string to produce sound, otherwise set it on the string to mute. Are you saying to pluck with all four fingers? I am using them to mute but pluck damned near everything with my first finger. I saw it taught that way in a video and I think that one of the books I have suggests it too. I can see benefits to both approaches. Yes, train all four fingers to pluck. Two reasons for this: 1. There will be times when you need that pinky,eh? 2, It burns the hand position into your brain. In action, the thumb, index, middle, and ring fingers do most of the plucking, and the thumb moves tomute lower strings as needed. Then returns to the resting position noted above. |
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Post by Catfish on Dec 24, 2015 15:56:37 GMT
Just to expand and clarify, if I'm playing melodies on the unwound strings only for a bit, I'll move my thumb to cover the wound strings. If I suddenly want a note or double stop on the wound string, I just shift back.
Economy of motion.
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Post by Marshall 'n' Moonshine on Mar 3, 2016 18:20:38 GMT
I've always just charged. It ain't great, or even all that good, but it's fun and I like the sound well enough.
Practice, practice, more practice and a good setup will get you started. It's a lot more forgiving with heavier strings, raised up a little.
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Post by Catfish on Mar 27, 2016 15:15:54 GMT
I've always just charged. It ain't great, or even all that good, but it's fun and I like the sound well enough. Practice, practice, more practice and a good setup will get you started. It's a lot more forgiving with heavier strings, raised up a little. One of the highlights of my live show, is using a beer bottle or mic stand to play slide for a bit. Gets 'em every time. Sounds like dying cats to me, but the drunks go wild over it. |
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Post by Bill h on Mar 27, 2016 15:58:34 GMT
I seen guys do it with beer bottles. Some of them were pretty good at it. I can't play a slide myself. I only used a slide on covers everybody knew and I would slave over the one little part I had to learn. I always wanted to learn however but just never had the chance in those days, do now though.
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Post by Marshall 'n' Moonshine on Mar 27, 2016 18:43:24 GMT
There's a video of Brad Paisley doing it and it's pretty good, all things considered. I'd like to see someone doing it while drinking from the bottle between phrases. Thatd be pretty fun! I haven't tried it in years, but I remember thinking instantly "Stick to your Dunlops, this ain't ever gonna work..." It might work better on a lap steel because of the angle, but I'd need all the label and glue off and the bottle washed and dried before my wife would let me come near her steel with a fuckin bottle.  |
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Post by Colchar on Mar 27, 2016 21:13:05 GMT
Funnily enough, I watched the Paisley clip less than an hour ago.
Danny Gatton used to do it too. He would also use mugs of beer and, from all accounts, never spilled a drop.
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Post by Catfish on Apr 3, 2016 16:49:05 GMT
Yeah, stole my bit from Danny Gatton, and it evolved from there.
Can't do mugs, but there's no reason anyone should spill any of the beer while using it as a slide. Just keep the end with the hole in it pointed up...
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Post by stevie on Apr 3, 2016 18:37:59 GMT
OK lads which finger do you put the slide on and why?
Now I'm no Johnny Winter by a long haul, but when I started sliding in open G the slide was on my ring finger.
Got tired of switching guitars in the middle of the set and learned to play slide in standard.
Also switched the slide to my pinky so's I could still fret notes with my other four fingers.
I'm still not sure which way works best.
Thoughts?
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Post by Bill h on Apr 3, 2016 19:00:17 GMT
Well, the very few times that I had to use a slide I used my pinky so I could keep playing between slide parts. I don't know how to play slide guitar, I just did it when I had to when I was in cover bands. My lack of skills made it real hard for me to learn my parts on songs that had slide.
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Post by Marshall 'n' Moonshine on Apr 3, 2016 19:48:37 GMT
I use my ring finger, but that's just because it's how I learned. I've tried switching to the middle finger and pinky, but it just didn't happen. I could finger the strings between slide parts a little, but the slide was all over the place. Plus I use standard tuning, for the most part. When I want to slide down to the second fret A triad, it was impossible on the pinky to hold it perpendicular to the fretboard.
I might start practicing using the middle finger, but I've tried it many times before and it didn't take.
I'm not gonna fight it. I'm not a great slide player and I don't feel destined to be, so I'll just stick with what's comfortable for now.
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Post by Bill h on Apr 3, 2016 21:48:00 GMT
I use my ring finger, but that's just because it's how I learned. I've tried switching to the middle finger and pinky, but it just didn't happen. I could finger the strings between slide parts a little, but the slide was all over the place. Plus I use standard tuning, for the most part. When I want to slide down to the second fret A triad, it was impossible on the pinky to hold it perpendicular to the fretboard. I might start practicing using the middle finger, but I've tried it many times before and it didn't take. I'm not gonna fight it. I'm not a great slide player and I don't feel destined to be, so I'll just stick with what's comfortable for now. I was always in standard tuning to. I used the slide on my pinky to make it easier to muddle thru parts between slide licks. It was either that or reach over and pull it off during the song and was also a pain. I sucked pretty bad at slide but managed to bullshit thru the songs on the set list (only a couple) that had it. |
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