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Post by zontar on Mar 6, 2021 23:30:02 GMT
Well we had some interesting discussion on Strats (& can keep adding to it) Next up Les Pauls. I like both Les Pauls & Strats--although Les Pauls are more me. So here are my lists.
5 best things about Les Pauls: 1-the sound, including the sustain, but beyond that as well. Nothing sounds quite like a Les Paul. 2-Having volume & tone controls for each pickup (On two pickup models) on most Les Pauls (there are exceptions) I like being able to set the tone & sometimes volume differently for the different pickups (tone rolled down on a neck pickup can be amazing for the right song) 3-The Feel--I know some don't like the feel, but a Les Paul feels like a part of me. My first electric was a Les Paul copy that I still have--and i think that is part of it in my case. They aren't the most comfortable guitar--but for me they feel like part of me. 4- the neck--I love chunky guitar necks (I also like slim necks as well)--but the feel of a chunky guitar neck is cool for me. Most Les Pauls I've played have had chunky necks. (Although the best feeling neck I've ever played was on a an SG) 5- versatility --no matter what music or song I'm playing--it sounds great on a Les Paul.
5 worst things 1-the weight. It's not as big a deal for me, but some Les Pauls get way up there weight wise. Mine is about 10 pounds--and I'm good with it. But 12 o + pounds could be an issue. 2-Headstock breaks. I've never had an issue with this on Les Pauls (My classical guitar suffered a headstock break), but it can happen due tot he headstock angle & thickness of the wood there. I like volutes--although some people hate them. A friend of mine dropped a Les Paul on a concrete floor and it landed not he headstock--but did not break--in fact it wasn't even out of tune. It had a volute--and a headstock ding. But it can be a problem. 3- Plastic jack plate- Most Les Pauls I've come across have a plastic jack plate, not a metal one. I switched mine & my copy's jack plates to metal ones. Why? the plastic ones crack & that allows the cable to move & that adds noise/crackle/etc. I didn't pay a lot for mine, but for what they charge for some Les Pauls they should have metal backplate (I know some do) 4-Cream plastic. simply a visual thing for me, I don't like who that looks--and it's worse on a black guitar--and so many Les Pauls have cream plastic and it just looks wrong. You may disagree. I think part of it is that my copy originally had cream plastic--but three differs shades that just didn't match. But that's easy enough to change. 5-The price of most--they are quite expensive--as are other guitars as well. But I will likely never own another Gibson one-unless it's a gift.
So overall - The pros win over the cons-with some of the cons being admittedly a bit nit picky. But it was hard to thing of things I don't like about Les Pauls.
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Post by johnreardon on Mar 7, 2021 9:40:18 GMT
Well we had some interesting discussion on Strats (& can keep adding to it) Next up Les Pauls. I like both Les Pauls & Strats--although Les Pauls are more me. So here are my lists. 5 best things about Les Pauls: 1-the sound, including the sustain, but beyond that as well. Nothing sounds quite like a Les Paul. 2-Having volume & tone controls for each pickup (On two pickup models) on most Les Pauls (there are exceptions) I like being able to set the tone & sometimes volume differently for the different pickups (tone rolled down on a neck pickup can be amazing for the right song) 3-The Feel--I know some don't like the feel, but a Les Paul feels like a part of me. My first electric was a Les Paul copy that I still have--and i think that is part of it in my case. They aren't the most comfortable guitar--but for me they feel like part of me. 4- the neck--I love chunky guitar necks (I also like slim necks as well)--but the feel of a chunky guitar neck is cool for me. Most Les Pauls I've played have had chunky necks. (Although the best feeling neck I've ever played was on a an SG) 5- versatility --no matter what music or song I'm playing--it sounds great on a Les Paul.5 worst things 1-the weight. It's not as big a deal for me, but some Les Pauls get way up there weight wise. Mine is about 10 pounds--and I'm good with it. But 12 o + pounds could be an issue. 2-Headstock breaks. I've never had an issue with this on Les Pauls (My classical guitar suffered a headstock break), but it can happen due tot he headstock angle & thickness of the wood there. I like volutes--although some people hate them. A friend of mine dropped a Les Paul on a concrete floor and it landed not he headstock--but did not break--in fact it wasn't even out of tune. It had a volute--and a headstock ding. But it can be a problem. 3- Plastic jack plate- Most Les Pauls I've come across have a plastic jack plate, not a metal one. I switched mine & my copy's jack plates to metal ones. Why? the plastic ones crack & that allows the cable to move & that adds noise/crackle/etc. I didn't pay a lot for mine, but for what they charge for some Les Pauls they should have metal backplate (I know some do) 4-Cream plastic. simply a visual thing for me, I don't like who that looks--and it's worse on a black guitar--and so many Les Pauls have cream plastic and it just looks wrong. You may disagree. I think part of it is that my copy originally had cream plastic--but three differs shades that just didn't match. But that's easy enough to change. 5-The price of most--they are quite expensive--as are other guitars as well. But I will likely never own another Gibson one-unless it's a gift. So overall - The pros win over the cons-with some of the cons being admittedly a bit nit picky. But it was hard to thing of things I don't like about Les Pauls. Agree with best
As someone who loves LPs, I don't have any problems
Not really concerned about weight,; never had any neck breaks
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Post by zontar on Mar 7, 2021 10:28:46 GMT
Well we had some interesting discussion on Strats (& can keep adding to it) Next up Les Pauls. I like both Les Pauls & Strats--although Les Pauls are more me. So here are my lists. 5 best things about Les Pauls: 1-the sound, including the sustain, but beyond that as well. Nothing sounds quite like a Les Paul. 2-Having volume & tone controls for each pickup (On two pickup models) on most Les Pauls (there are exceptions) I like being able to set the tone & sometimes volume differently for the different pickups (tone rolled down on a neck pickup can be amazing for the right song) 3-The Feel--I know some don't like the feel, but a Les Paul feels like a part of me. My first electric was a Les Paul copy that I still have--and i think that is part of it in my case. They aren't the most comfortable guitar--but for me they feel like part of me. 4- the neck--I love chunky guitar necks (I also like slim necks as well)--but the feel of a chunky guitar neck is cool for me. Most Les Pauls I've played have had chunky necks. (Although the best feeling neck I've ever played was on a an SG) 5- versatility --no matter what music or song I'm playing--it sounds great on a Les Paul.5 worst things 1-the weight. It's not as big a deal for me, but some Les Pauls get way up there weight wise. Mine is about 10 pounds--and I'm good with it. But 12 o + pounds could be an issue. 2-Headstock breaks. I've never had an issue with this on Les Pauls (My classical guitar suffered a headstock break), but it can happen due tot he headstock angle & thickness of the wood there. I like volutes--although some people hate them. A friend of mine dropped a Les Paul on a concrete floor and it landed not he headstock--but did not break--in fact it wasn't even out of tune. It had a volute--and a headstock ding. But it can be a problem. 3- Plastic jack plate- Most Les Pauls I've come across have a plastic jack plate, not a metal one. I switched mine & my copy's jack plates to metal ones. Why? the plastic ones crack & that allows the cable to move & that adds noise/crackle/etc. I didn't pay a lot for mine, but for what they charge for some Les Pauls they should have metal backplate (I know some do) 4-Cream plastic. simply a visual thing for me, I don't like who that looks--and it's worse on a black guitar--and so many Les Pauls have cream plastic and it just looks wrong. You may disagree. I think part of it is that my copy originally had cream plastic--but three differs shades that just didn't match. But that's easy enough to change. 5-The price of most--they are quite expensive--as are other guitars as well. But I will likely never own another Gibson one-unless it's a gift. So overall - The pros win over the cons-with some of the cons being admittedly a bit nit picky. But it was hard to thing of things I don't like about Les Pauls. Agree with best
As someone who loves LPs, I don't have any problems
Not really concerned about weight,; never had any neck breaks and all the ones I have owned had metal jackplates. Most have been Custom Shop, so to be expected I suppose
Well I did say some of those cons were nit picky. But I was trying to be fair & list 5 things And the jackplate & Plastic parts are easy to replace.
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Post by johnreardon on Mar 7, 2021 11:13:50 GMT
Agree with best
As someone who loves LPs, I don't have any problems
Not really concerned about weight,; never had any neck breaks and all the ones I have owned had metal jackplates. Most have been Custom Shop, so to be expected I suppose
Well I did say some of those cons were nit picky. But I was trying to be fair & list 5 things And the jackplate & Plastic parts are easy to replace. The colours never really bother me. I traded this Catalaina 10 years ago for a Tele and it came with all the original bits plus different colour pickguards. The originals were black, but there were also white pearloid pickguard & truss rod covers in case. I sometimes swap them when I change strings. They have the pearloid ones on at the moment
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Post by zontar on Mar 7, 2021 23:04:37 GMT
Well I did say some of those cons were nit picky. But I was trying to be fair & list 5 things And the jackplate & Plastic parts are easy to replace. The colours never really bother me. I traded this Catalaina 10 years ago for a Tele and it came with all the original bits plus different colour pickguards. The originals were black, but there were also white pearloid pickguard & truss rod covers in case. I sometimes swap them when I change strings. They have the pearloid ones on at the moment
Overall the look is way down the list Cream plastic on a guitar is not a barrier to me buying a guitar (my Artcore has cream pickup rings) But I have also changed some cream parts on a couple of guitars And again, I was trying to think of things to list that were on the negative side So that shows how much I like Les Pauls
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 3:33:25 GMT
I'm having trouble finding anything I like about Les Paul guitars. I never really had an urge to own one, and the only one I bought, I was seduced by the low price. It was a rescue guitar but I fiddled with it halfheartedly and eventually gave it to Bruce (Kelletcaster). I have a vague interest in SG's and could possibly be talked into one (a Gibson, not an Epiphone) but that feeling doesn't carry over to Les Pauls.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 5:40:40 GMT
I have thought of one thing that I've never cared for on Les Pauls. I don't know that they're all afflicted with this fault, but the ones I've been around seem to have an interaction between the volume pots. I assume it's a characteristic of two-volume-pot guitars and maybe it's unavoidable, but I've always regarded it as a liability.
One thing I do appreciate is the way Gibsons seem to more often have the tone control wired to the middle (output) lug of the volume pot. It yields a much better sound than Fenders where the tone's wired to the input lug of the volume pot.
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Post by johnreardon on Mar 8, 2021 9:33:15 GMT
I have thought of one thing that I've never cared for on Les Pauls. I don't know that they're all afflicted with this fault, but the ones I've been around seem to have an interaction between the volume pots. I assume it's a characteristic of two-volume-pot guitars and maybe it's unavoidable, but I've always regarded it as a liability. One thing I do appreciate is the way Gibsons seem to more often have the tone control wired to the middle (output) lug of the volume pot. It yields a much better sound than Fenders where the tone's wired to the input lug of the volume pot. It's not a fault, it's the way the pickups are wired in parallel. If you are in the middle position and turn one volume control all the way down, it mutes.
When you think of it, why would you want to turn one volume all the way down in the middle position? Why not just go to the position you want to play? That function is also handy if you want to use a staccato effect in a song. Turn one volume all the way down and then just flick the selector switch between the position you are using and the middle
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Post by Die Bullen on Mar 8, 2021 12:27:34 GMT
I'm having trouble finding anything I like about Les Paul guitars. I never really had an urge to own one, and the only one I bought, I was seduced by the low price. It was a rescue guitar but I fiddled with it halfheartedly and eventually gave it to Bruce (Kelletcaster). I have a vague interest in SG's and could possibly be talked into one (a Gibson, not an Epiphone) but that feeling doesn't carry over to Les Pauls. Funny, but I have to agree with you on this one too. I only had one Les Paul lawsuit copy and I absolutely hated everything about it. Sound, weight- it put me off Les Paul completely. I literally stripped it for parts, cut the thing into pieces and threw it in a dumpster. HOWEVER, I do realize that this is a completely unfair comparison and I probably should give a real Les Paul a try sometime.
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Post by johnreardon on Mar 8, 2021 13:20:49 GMT
I'm having trouble finding anything I like about Les Paul guitars. I never really had an urge to own one, and the only one I bought, I was seduced by the low price. It was a rescue guitar but I fiddled with it halfheartedly and eventually gave it to Bruce (Kelletcaster). I have a vague interest in SG's and could possibly be talked into one (a Gibson, not an Epiphone) but that feeling doesn't carry over to Les Pauls. Funny, but I have to agree with you on this one too. I only had one Les Paul lawsuit copy and I absolutely hated everything about it. Sound, weight- it put me off Les Paul completely. I literally stripped it for parts, cut the thing into pieces and threw it in a dumpster. HOWEVER, I do realize that this is a completely unfair comparison and I probably should give a real Les Paul a try sometime. Not all Les Pauls are heavy. I have a couple just over 8lbs and yes it is unfair to compare copies. The closest I have played is a friends Tokai, which is close in looks and sound
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Post by Die Bullen on Mar 8, 2021 16:53:38 GMT
Funny, but I have to agree with you on this one too. I only had one Les Paul lawsuit copy and I absolutely hated everything about it. Sound, weight- it put me off Les Paul completely. I literally stripped it for parts, cut the thing into pieces and threw it in a dumpster. HOWEVER, I do realize that this is a completely unfair comparison and I probably should give a real Les Paul a try sometime. Not all Les Pauls are heavy. I have a couple just over 8lbs and yes it is unfair to compare copies. The closest I have played is a friends Tokai, which is close in looks and sound I'm not even sure the weight would bother me anyway at this point. My Guild X-500 is a very large guitar and I'll wager it is close to 10 pounds
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Post by infant on Mar 8, 2021 20:49:01 GMT
Funny, but I have to agree with you on this one too. I only had one Les Paul lawsuit copy and I absolutely hated everything about it. Sound, weight- it put me off Les Paul completely. I literally stripped it for parts, cut the thing into pieces and threw it in a dumpster. HOWEVER, I do realize that this is a completely unfair comparison and I probably should give a real Les Paul a try sometime. Not all Les Pauls are heavy. I have a couple just over 8lbs and yes it is unfair to compare copies. The closest I have played is a friends Tokai, which is close in looks and sound To me, 8lbs is getting to be on the heavy side. My ‘75 Tele is just over 8lbs and I tend to use a Comfort Strapp when I play it. My ES137 is even heavier at a bit more than 8.5 lbs. I tend to use a nice thick padded leather strap with that one and I don’t play it when I have to stand for long periods of time. My Tele Thinline weighs in at 6lbs 3oz and my Les Paul Melody Maker is a little over 6lbs 10oz. They are currently my “go to” guitars. It should be noted that the only reason the Melody Maker is so light is because it is chambered and also thinner than an actual Les Paul.
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Post by infant on Mar 8, 2021 22:01:42 GMT
I’ve only owned 3 Gibsons in my life....a ‘96 Howard Roberts Fusion, ‘06 ES137 and my ‘14 Les Paul Melody Maker. I sold the HRF years ago but still own the other two. The HRF and the MM both had the interactive volume controls that Ken mentioned. It took a while for me to get used to this but I kinda like it now. So what do I like about LPs? As stated above I don’t own a proper LP but rather the thinner and lighter Melody Maker version of it. (See pic). -I like the feel of the neck on this. It’s a 50s shape and feels very comfortable. -I like the 12” fretboard radius and matching bridge radius. Makes it easier to set up -small body shape is quite comfortable what don’t I like? -I’m not a fan of the 4 knob system. I like the simplicity of the Tele single volume control -I’ve never found a LP light enough that I would consider buying. -I’ve heard too many horror stories about the fragile headstock. At least with a Fender, you can just order a brand new neck, screw it on and you are back in business. -the price of them and most any Gibson has gotten way out of my price range. BTW, my MM has a metal jack plate.
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Post by zontar on Mar 8, 2021 22:14:29 GMT
I have thought of one thing that I've never cared for on Les Pauls. I don't know that they're all afflicted with this fault, but the ones I've been around seem to have an interaction between the volume pots. I assume it's a characteristic of two-volume-pot guitars and maybe it's unavoidable, but I've always regarded it as a liability. One thing I do appreciate is the way Gibsons seem to more often have the tone control wired to the middle (output) lug of the volume pot. It yields a much better sound than Fenders where the tone's wired to the input lug of the volume pot. It's not a fault, it's the way the pickups are wired in parallel. If you are in the middle position and turn one volume control all the way down, it mutes.
When you think of it, why would you want to turn one volume all the way down in the middle position? Why not just go to the position you want to play? That function is also handy if you want to use a staccato effect in a song. Turn one volume all the way down and then just flick the selector switch between the position you are using and the middle
And this is not exclusive to Les Paul or Gibson. Any two pickup guitar I've played that has a volume control for each pickup works the same way. And it makes sense to me.
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Post by zontar on Mar 8, 2021 22:16:49 GMT
I'm having trouble finding anything I like about Les Paul guitars. I never really had an urge to own one, and the only one I bought, I was seduced by the low price. It was a rescue guitar but I fiddled with it halfheartedly and eventually gave it to Bruce (Kelletcaster). I have a vague interest in SG's and could possibly be talked into one (a Gibson, not an Epiphone) but that feeling doesn't carry over to Les Pauls. Funny, but I have to agree with you on this one too. I only had one Les Paul lawsuit copy and I absolutely hated everything about it. Sound, weight- it put me off Les Paul completely. I literally stripped it for parts, cut the thing into pieces and threw it in a dumpster. HOWEVER, I do realize that this is a completely unfair comparison and I probably should give a real Les Paul a try sometime. I agree it is an unfair comparison. My Les Paul copy is probably about 7 pounds or so. My Les Paul is about 10. But I love them both. And starting electric on the copy probably prepared me.
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Post by zontar on Mar 8, 2021 22:21:22 GMT
I’ve only owned 3 Gibsons in my life....a ‘96 Howard Roberts Fusion, ‘06 ES137 and my ‘14 Les Paul Melody Maker. I sold the HRF years ago but still own the other two. The HRF and the MM both had the interactive volume controls that Ken mentioned. It took a while for me to get used to this but I kinda like it now. So what do I like about LPs? As stated above I don’t own a proper LP but rather the thinner and lighter Melody Maker version of it. (See pic). -I like the feel of the neck on this. It’s a 50s shape and feels very comfortable. -I like the 12” fretboard radius and matching bridge radius. Makes it easier to set up -small body shape is quite comfortable what don’t I like? -I’m not a fan of the 4 knob system. I like the simplicity of the Tele single volume control -I’ve never found a LP light enough that I would consider buying. -I’ve heard too many horror stories about the fragile headstock. At least with a Fender, you can just order a brand new neck, screw it on and you are back in business. -the price of them and most any Gibson has gotten way out of my price range. BTW, my MM has a metal jack plate. View AttachmentCool about the metal jackplate The reason i prefer separate volume (& tone controls) for each pickup is that I use both pickups--and sometimes I like different settings on them--especially the tone. If I could have two of one, and one of the other, I'd go for master volume & separate tones--most two pickup guitars I've come across are the other way around (But not all)
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Post by infant on Mar 8, 2021 22:33:22 GMT
I agree with a master volume. If I take a solo I’d like to use one knob to adjust my volume as use any one of the 3 pickup selections at any given time.
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Post by zontar on Mar 8, 2021 22:50:32 GMT
I like turning down the tone on my neck pickup, and having it cranked on the bridge pickup--and the switch between them gets your attention.
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Post by Die Bullen on Mar 9, 2021 0:44:20 GMT
I’ve only owned 3 Gibsons in my life....a ‘96 Howard Roberts Fusion, ‘06 ES137 and my ‘14 Les Paul Melody Maker. I sold the HRF years ago but still own the other two. The HRF and the MM both had the interactive volume controls that Ken mentioned. It took a while for me to get used to this but I kinda like it now. So what do I like about LPs? As stated above I don’t own a proper LP but rather the thinner and lighter Melody Maker version of it. (See pic). -I like the feel of the neck on this. It’s a 50s shape and feels very comfortable. -I like the 12” fretboard radius and matching bridge radius. Makes it easier to set up -small body shape is quite comfortable what don’t I like? -I’m not a fan of the 4 knob system. I like the simplicity of the Tele single volume control -I’ve never found a LP light enough that I would consider buying. -I’ve heard too many horror stories about the fragile headstock. At least with a Fender, you can just order a brand new neck, screw it on and you are back in business. -the price of them and most any Gibson has gotten way out of my price range. BTW, my MM has a metal jack plate. View AttachmentCool about the metal jackplate The reason i prefer separate volume (& tone controls) for each pickup is that I use both pickups--and sometimes I like different settings on them--especially the tone. If I could have two of one, and one of the other, I'd go for master volume & separate tones--most two pickup guitars I've come across are the other way around (But not all) Although not specific to Les Pauls I like the 4 volume knob setup plus a master volume. That's what my X-500 had and it works great for me
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Post by zontar on Mar 9, 2021 2:26:57 GMT
Cool about the metal jackplate The reason i prefer separate volume (& tone controls) for each pickup is that I use both pickups--and sometimes I like different settings on them--especially the tone. If I could have two of one, and one of the other, I'd go for master volume & separate tones--most two pickup guitars I've come across are the other way around (But not all) Although not specific to Les Pauls I like the 4 volume knob setup plus a master volume. That's what my X-500 had and it works great for me the master volume control with individual controls for both pickups is a nice feature for some things. I don't know that I would use it a lot, but I can see where it would be useful. If I need that though--I do have a volume pedal.
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Post by Die Bullen on Mar 9, 2021 2:37:33 GMT
Although not specific to Les Pauls I like the 4 volume knob setup plus a master volume. That's what my X-500 had and it works great for me the master volume control with individual controls for both pickups is a nice feature for some things. I don't know that I would use it a lot, but I can see where it would be useful. If I need that though--I do have a volume pedal. It is really really rare that I ever use the bridge pickup but that extra degree of control with master volume is really useful to me.
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Post by zontar on Mar 9, 2021 2:48:48 GMT
the master volume control with individual controls for both pickups is a nice feature for some things. I don't know that I would use it a lot, but I can see where it would be useful. If I need that though--I do have a volume pedal. It is really really rare that I ever use the bridge pickup but that extra degree of control with master volume is really useful to me. I tend to use the neck pickup way more than I ever used to, but sometimes the bridge pickup is the one you have to use. On my Mustang I tend to use both together most of theme-whetehr in phase or out.
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Post by zontar on Mar 9, 2021 22:36:55 GMT
So does anybody find them body heavy? (As opposed to neck heavy)
(I don’t, but I know people who do)
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Post by johnreardon on Mar 10, 2021 9:37:13 GMT
So does anybody find them body heavy? (As opposed to neck heavy) (I don’t, but I know people who do) Not really. At my age, a guitar weighing a few ounces would be heavy after a 2-3 hour gig. While playing, the adrenaline gets me through the sets.
I haven't really weighed them all, but I think the LP Standard with the 2Tek bridge is the heaviest, probably near or over 10lbs.
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Post by zontar on Mar 10, 2021 19:53:55 GMT
So does anybody find them body heavy? (As opposed to neck heavy) (I don’t, but I know people who do) Not really. At my age, a guitar weighing a few ounces would be heavy after a 2-3 hour gig. While playing, the adrenaline gets me through the sets.
I haven't really weighed them all, but I think the LP Standard with the 2Tek bridge is the heaviest, probably near or over 10lbs.
It isn’t an issue for me to play a 10 pound guitar But maybe one day However I was referring to the body vs the neck Basically the opposite of neck dive I know some who don’t like that part (Body dive) I don’t have an issue that way (& I guess I could have been clearer)
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Post by Die Bullen on Mar 10, 2021 22:40:34 GMT
Not really. At my age, a guitar weighing a few ounces would be heavy after a 2-3 hour gig. While playing, the adrenaline gets me through the sets.
I haven't really weighed them all, but I think the LP Standard with the 2Tek bridge is the heaviest, probably near or over 10lbs.
It isn’t an issue for me to play a 10 pound guitar But maybe one day However I was referring to the body vs the neck Basically the opposite of neck dive I know some who don’t like that part (Body dive) I don’t have an issue that way (& I guess I could have been clearer) I wasn't sure if I should answer as mine wasn't a genuine LP, but I knew exactly what you meant. The body on my LP copy was in fact extremely heavy- that is what made the guitar so awkward.
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Post by zontar on Mar 11, 2021 2:04:49 GMT
It isn’t an issue for me to play a 10 pound guitar But maybe one day However I was referring to the body vs the neck Basically the opposite of neck dive I know some who don’t like that part (Body dive) I don’t have an issue that way (& I guess I could have been clearer) I wasn't sure if I should answer as mine wasn't a genuine LP, but I knew exactly what you meant. The body on my LP copy was in fact extremely heavy- that is what made the guitar so awkward. As I've said--my first electric was a LP copy--and I guess I just got used to string with the body heavier that way. If my first had been my Iceman--it might be different. But when standing there is something cool about the body heavy thing
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Post by infant on Mar 11, 2021 2:04:59 GMT
Before I bought my Tele, a friend told me that her boyfriend was selling his guitar and said that I could try it out. It just so happened that it was a Norlin era Goldtop LP with humbuckers and I had a gig that weekend so I invited him to come and bring the guitar. At the time I had an SG copy that I was using so I brought it along too. Anyway, I do recall the LP being very heavy compared to my SG copy but something that scared me was while I was playing it, his strap broke. Now it was an old strap but the weight of the body just sheared through the thin piece of leather. I was just standing there playing and singing and suddenly the strap broke and I found myself clinging onto the neck tightly. Luckily I had my guitar there and I finished the set with my own strap and then played the next set with my own guitar as I was afraid that it was gonna break my strap too. However, I have to note that back then, the weight of a guitar didn’t matter to me as I was a strong 18 year old kid.
A few months later, I went to a music store and I was interested in a Gibson L6S which is the same guitar Carlos Santana was playing at the time. So I tried it out for a little while and then a blonde Telecaster caught my eye. I plugged it in and it was game over for any Gibson with humbuckers. I loved the feel but most of all, it had a sparkle that the Gibson and my SG copy lacked. I liked the clarity and I never really looked back.
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Post by zontar on Mar 11, 2021 2:14:42 GMT
Before I bought my Tele, a friend told me that her boyfriend was selling his guitar and said that I could try it out. It just so happened that it was a Norlin era Goldtop LP with humbuckers and I had a gig that weekend so I invited him to come and bring the guitar. At the time I had an SG copy that I was using so I brought it along too. Anyway, I do recall the LP being very heavy compared to my SG copy but something that scared me was while I was playing it, his strap broke. Now it was an old strap but the weight of the body just sheared through the thin piece of leather. I was just standing there playing and singing and suddenly the strap broke and I found myself clinging onto the neck tightly. Luckily I had my guitar there and I finished the set with my own strap and then played the next set with my own guitar as I was afraid that it was gonna break my strap too. However, I have to note that back then, the weight of a guitar didn’t matter to me as I was a strong 18 year old kid. A few months later, I went to a music store and I was interested in a Gibson L6S which is the same guitar Carlos Santana was playing at the time. So I tried it out for a little while and then a blonde Telecaster caught my eye. I plugged it in and it was game over for any Gibson with humbuckers. I loved the feel but most of all, it had a sparkle that the Gibson and my SG copy lacked. I liked the clarity and I never really looked back. The L6S I tried was heavier than any Les Paul I've ever played-played some heavy Teles too. Never had the strap issue with a Les Paul--but depending on the strap, I can see that being an issue.
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Post by Die Bullen on Mar 11, 2021 2:22:16 GMT
Before I bought my Tele, a friend told me that her boyfriend was selling his guitar and said that I could try it out. It just so happened that it was a Norlin era Goldtop LP with humbuckers and I had a gig that weekend so I invited him to come and bring the guitar. At the time I had an SG copy that I was using so I brought it along too. Anyway, I do recall the LP being very heavy compared to my SG copy but something that scared me was while I was playing it, his strap broke. Now it was an old strap but the weight of the body just sheared through the thin piece of leather. I was just standing there playing and singing and suddenly the strap broke and I found myself clinging onto the neck tightly. Luckily I had my guitar there and I finished the set with my own strap and then played the next set with my own guitar as I was afraid that it was gonna break my strap too. However, I have to note that back then, the weight of a guitar didn’t matter to me as I was a strong 18 year old kid. A few months later, I went to a music store and I was interested in a Gibson L6S which is the same guitar Carlos Santana was playing at the time. So I tried it out for a little while and then a blonde Telecaster caught my eye. I plugged it in and it was game over for any Gibson with humbuckers. I loved the feel but most of all, it had a sparkle that the Gibson and my SG copy lacked. I liked the clarity and I never really looked back. Funny when I was a teenager I had the strap for my LP copy snap too. Although that strap was real junk. One of those crappy 70's straps that was woven on one side and vinyl on the other. Our was it leather? Someone gave it to me and it was really old.
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