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Post by johnreardon on Jan 19, 2021 14:19:48 GMT
Re-recorded one of mine with drums, bass and added 2 verses I missed off my first demo of this. Only the drums and sound effects at beginning are from Logic.
Used my Hamer Cruise bass, for bass obviously and my Gibson Custom Shop 1960 Reissue for all guitar tracks.
Sadly all voices were mine as well 
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Post by Sgt Rock on Jan 19, 2021 18:17:35 GMT
John, that sounds pretty good. there is nothing wrong with your voice. it sounds very contemporary.
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Post by johnreardon on Jan 19, 2021 19:40:38 GMT
John, that sounds pretty good. there is nothing wrong with your voice. it sounds very contemporary. Cheers Brent. I think with the voice thing, it's more confidence than anything. I'm a guitarist and could play in front of anyone, but put a mic in front of me as a main vocalist, and I fall apart. I also don't like recording when there's someone, the wife these days, around. My music area is up in our loft, but sound can carry through the house. When recording guitars, I use headphones so no noise other than the guitar acoustic sound. I usually do quiet tracking vocals, and then when she's out I sing out loud.  She had to pop for a blood test this morning so managed to get one main take down for this. The other tracks are what I recorded as tracking vocals 'pumped' up |
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Post by Sgt Rock on Jan 19, 2021 21:19:57 GMT
I got used to singing in front of people when I did that coffee house thing many years ago.
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Post by zontar on Jan 20, 2021 6:02:16 GMT
Way better than the vocals I would do.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 20, 2021 12:35:51 GMT
Way better than the vocals I would do. Me too- I just don't like to sing at all |
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Post by zontar on Jan 23, 2021 7:19:20 GMT
Way better than the vocals I would do. Me too- I just don't like to sing at all I'd sing if I could--I have trouble even counting out loud while I'm playing--something about how different muscles don't like working together. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 23, 2021 14:53:21 GMT
Me too- I just don't like to sing at all I'd sing if I could--I have trouble even counting out loud while I'm playing--something about how different muscles don't like working together. I can hold a tune but my singing range is not good- kind of like Sinatra in the 1950's and 1960's. Most of his stuff I could probably sing if I needed to but I don't get joy from it. I couldn't sing while playing at all. |
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 0:39:01 GMT
I couldn't sing while playing at all. When I tell people that I often get well meaning tips on how to do it. Well, guess what--I've played more than long enough to have heard & tried all the tips--and guess what? Still not able to do it i mean thanks for the tips, but yeah, I've heard them all. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 24, 2021 1:29:54 GMT
I couldn't sing while playing at all. When I tell people that I often get well meaning tips on how to do it. Well, guess what--I've played more than long enough to have heard & tried all the tips--and guess what? Still not able to do it i mean thanks for the tips, but yeah, I've heard them all. It is a great skill if one can do it however. Saves on manpower in the band |
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 1:37:49 GMT
When I tell people that I often get well meaning tips on how to do it. Well, guess what--I've played more than long enough to have heard & tried all the tips--and guess what? Still not able to do it i mean thanks for the tips, but yeah, I've heard them all. It is a great skill if one can do it however. Saves on manpower in the band Sometimes it can make the difference in passing an audition as well. Sometimes it doesn't matter. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 24, 2021 1:44:42 GMT
As part of my son's university studies they recruited him just yesterday for private voice lessons. He wasn't quite sure about it but I told him, if you can get free voice training, get it because it will add value to you
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 1:54:26 GMT
As part of my son's university studies they recruited him just yesterday for private voice lessons. He wasn't quite sure about it but I told him, if you can get free voice training, get it because it will add value to you It won't hurt in any case--and he just might learn something, even if he's never a singer. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 24, 2021 2:12:00 GMT
As part of my son's university studies they recruited him just yesterday for private voice lessons. He wasn't quite sure about it but I told him, if you can get free voice training, get it because it will add value to you It won't hurt in any case--and he just might learn something, even if he's never a singer. Exactly. He had to learn basic piano too. I told him learn whatever you can |
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 2:13:43 GMT
It won't hurt in any case--and he just might learn something, even if he's never a singer. Exactly. He had to learn basic piano too. I told him learn whatever you can I had piano lessons--and no regrets there (I didn't like my last teacher though, but that's another story) It helped Same with learning classical. I also took a couple of years of classical guitar lessons as an adult--which was also helpful. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 24, 2021 2:34:51 GMT
Exactly. He had to learn basic piano too. I told him learn whatever you can I had piano lessons--and no regrets there (I didn't like my last teacher though, but that's another story) It helped Same with learning classical. I also took a couple of years of classical guitar lessons as an adult--which was also helpful. I should have taken piano lessons. Keyboards allow one to really visualize the sharps and flats, which is incredibly cool |
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 2:37:01 GMT
I had piano lessons--and no regrets there (I didn't like my last teacher though, but that's another story) It helped Same with learning classical. I also took a couple of years of classical guitar lessons as an adult--which was also helpful. I should have taken piano lessons. Keyboards allow one to really visualize the sharps and flats, which is incredibly cool I'm sure I'e mentioned before, you wouldn't want me playing keyboards in your band--but I know more than enough to tell a keyboard player what too do--and know that it is doable. Although if the keyboard player is good enough I might just give them the chord pattern/riff and key, tempo, feel etc--and see what they do with it. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 24, 2021 2:56:37 GMT
I should have taken piano lessons. Keyboards allow one to really visualize the sharps and flats, which is incredibly cool I'm sure I'e mentioned before, you wouldn't want me playing keyboards in your band--but I know more than enough to tell a keyboard player what too do--and know that it is doable. Although if the keyboard player is good enough I might just give them the chord pattern/riff and key, tempo, feel etc--and see what they do with it. Me either. I have a good working knowledge of music theory but it certainly doesn't mean I can play keys. I could probably tell a keyboard player what to play based on chord theory more than keyboard ability |
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Post by zontar on Jan 24, 2021 3:03:02 GMT
I'm sure I'e mentioned before, you wouldn't want me playing keyboards in your band--but I know more than enough to tell a keyboard player what too do--and know that it is doable. Although if the keyboard player is good enough I might just give them the chord pattern/riff and key, tempo, feel etc--and see what they do with it. Me either. I have a good working knowledge of music theory but it certainly doesn't mean I can play keys. I could probably tell a keyboard player what to play based on chord theory more than keyboard ability I find it helps if you have at least a bit of knowledge of the instruments you play with--but also remember you're not the expert. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 24, 2021 14:25:47 GMT
Me either. I have a good working knowledge of music theory but it certainly doesn't mean I can play keys. I could probably tell a keyboard player what to play based on chord theory more than keyboard ability I find it helps if you have at least a bit of knowledge of the instruments you play with--but also remember you're not the expert. Yes, I helped my daughter learn the glockenspiel for school and how to read drum notation, even though i had no knowledge of either beforehand. Glockenspiel is another very intuitive instrument |
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Post by zontar on Jan 31, 2021 1:54:23 GMT
It can be amusing when someone who doesn't know there's drum notation finds out there is.
It does help drummers understand some stuff about standard notation if they don't play other instruments.
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 31, 2021 2:40:49 GMT
It can be amusing when someone who doesn't know there's drum notation finds out there is. It does help drummers understand some stuff about standard notation if they don't play other instruments. I'll bet many DRUMMERS don't know there is drum notation |
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Post by zontar on Jan 31, 2021 2:45:18 GMT
It can be amusing when someone who doesn't know there's drum notation finds out there is. It does help drummers understand some stuff about standard notation if they don't play other instruments. I'll bet many DRUMMERS don't know there is drum notation Could be,although most of the drummers I've met were aware of it. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Jan 31, 2021 14:10:35 GMT
I'll bet many DRUMMERS don't know there is drum notation Could be,although most of the drummers I've met were aware of it. I wonder what % of drummers can actually read drum music other than classical percussionists. Then again I guess the same holds true for guitar players. I certainly can't purport to be able to read guitar music, although I used to be better at it |
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Post by zontar on Feb 1, 2021 1:17:32 GMT
Could be,although most of the drummers I've met were aware of it. I wonder what % of drummers can actually read drum music other than classical percussionists. Then again I guess the same holds true for guitar players. I certainly can't purport to be able to read guitar music, although I used to be better at it I think most guitar players I know don’t read music |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 1, 2021 2:15:21 GMT
I wonder what % of drummers can actually read drum music other than classical percussionists. Then again I guess the same holds true for guitar players. I certainly can't purport to be able to read guitar music, although I used to be better at it I think most guitar players I know don’t read music I'd say almost i all know can't |
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Post by zontar on Feb 1, 2021 2:34:47 GMT
I think most guitar players I know don’t read music I'd say almost i all know can't I did know some guitarists when I took lessons & when I taught So that helps with the guitarists who can read music |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 1, 2021 13:20:38 GMT
I'd say almost i all know can't I did know some guitarists when I took lessons & when I taught So that helps with the guitarists who can read music What I've found interesting is many keyboard players who were classically trained are lost when reading lead sheets with chord names over the measures. I would think this would be much easier to process quicker but I guess when you are trained to always "read the ink" of stacked chords many people don't even really think about whether something is a Cmaj7- they just play whatever stacked notes they see. |
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Post by zontar on Feb 1, 2021 17:40:07 GMT
I did know some guitarists when I took lessons & when I taught So that helps with the guitarists who can read music What I've found interesting is many keyboard players who were classically trained are lost when reading lead sheets with chord names over the measures. I would think this would be much easier to process quicker but I guess when you are trained to always "read the ink" of stacked chords many people don't even really think about whether something is a Cmaj7- they just play whatever stacked notes they see. Really? Most keyboard players I know have no trouble with that--played with many in church and sometimes at jams. While most prefer standard notation, they had little or no trouble with charts. That includes students from when I taught guitar-as I also taught the bands-which often included keyboard players. |
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Post by Die Bullen on Feb 1, 2021 21:18:37 GMT
What I've found interesting is many keyboard players who were classically trained are lost when reading lead sheets with chord names over the measures. I would think this would be much easier to process quicker but I guess when you are trained to always "read the ink" of stacked chords many people don't even really think about whether something is a Cmaj7- they just play whatever stacked notes they see. Really? Most keyboard players I know have no trouble with that--played with many in church and sometimes at jams. While most prefer standard notation, they had little or no trouble with charts. That includes students from when I taught guitar-as I also taught the bands-which often included keyboard players. I guess it depends on what they are used to. If they have any jazz or rock experience it is second nature. But if they are purely classical, I've seen it throw quite a few guys |
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She had to pop for a blood test this morning so managed to get one main take down for this. The other tracks are what I recorded as tracking vocals 'pumped' up
